CHAIRPERSON: Which language would you prefer to speak?
MR HATTINGH: I'd like to testify in Afrikaans please.
CHAIRPERSON: Do you have any objection to taking the oath?
MR HATTINGH: (sworn states)
EXAMINATION BY MR PRINSLOO: Thank you, Chairperson.
Mr Hattingh, you are also an applicant in this matter and your application appears in the bundle from page 38, that's the formal part, and the incident is discussed on page 41 up to page 42, is that correct?
MR DU TOIT: Yes, Chairperson.
MR PRINSLOO: And the political motivation is set out on page 43 of the bundle.
Now Mr Hattingh, you've heard the evidence of Mr van Rensburg, as well as the evidence of Mr Rorich and van Dyk in this matter, is that correct?
MR DU TOIT: Yes, Chairperson.
MR PRINSLOO: Do you agree with their evidence?
MR DU TOIT: Yes, Chairperson.
MR PRINSLOO: Insofar as it relates to you?
MR DU TOIT: Yes, Chairperson.
MR PRINSLOO: And you also heard that this incident took place in June of 1980 and the application refers to it as 1978, are you requesting the Committee to grant you an amendment so that that be changed to 1980?
MR DU TOIT: Yes, Chairperson.
MR PRINSLOO: You had an order to blow up the wooden house.
MR DU TOIT: That's correct.
MR PRINSLOO: And at the critical stage you indicated to Mr Rorich, your senior, that you didn't have the courage to go through with it.
MR DU TOIT: That's correct.
MR PRINSLOO: And the explosive device which you fashioned was then handed to Mr van Dyk, the previous witness.
MR DU TOIT: Yes, Chairperson.
MR PRINSLOO: Did you accompany him?
MR DU TOIT: Yes, Chairperson.
MR PRINSLOO: In that area, to the wooden house?
MR DU TOIT: Yes, I went with him to the wooden house.
MR PRINSLOO: Was the wooden house blown up by Mr van Dyk, in your presence?
MR DU TOIT: We planted or placed the explosive there and then moved away from the scene.
MR PRINSLOO: Did the explosion take place thereafter?
MR DU TOIT: Yes, Chairperson.
MR PRINSLOO: Mr Hattingh, did you associate yourself with such an explosion, that an explosion would take place at the wooden house after the device was handed over to Mr van Dyk?
MR DU TOIT: Yes, Chairperson.
MR PRINSLOO: And you are therefore applying for amnesty for conspiracy to commit murder.
MR DU TOIT: Yes, Chairperson.
MR PRINSLOO: For two charges of murder.
MR DU TOIT: Yes, Chairperson.
MR PRINSLOO: And after the incident you also learnt that a child as well as one other person had been killed in these two houses respectively?
MR DU TOIT: Yes, Chairperson.
MR PRINSLOO: And you're also applying for amnesty for a conspiracy to malicious injury to property, to these two homes.
MR DU TOIT: Yes, Chairperson.
MR PRINSLOO: And also for a conspiracy to cause an explosion.
MR DU TOIT: Yes, Chairperson.
MR PRINSLOO: And for defeating the ends of justice.
MR DU TOIT: Yes, Chairperson.
MR PRINSLOO: You're also asking the Honourable Committee for amnesty for any other offence which might be a competent verdict on the evidence before us.
MR DU TOIT: Yes, Chairperson.
MR PRINSLOO: You're also applying for amnesty for any delictual liability, in other words, civil liability.
MR DU TOIT: Yes, Chairperson.
MR PRINSLOO: Thank you, Chairperson, no further evidence.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS BY MR PRINSLOO
MR VICTOR: I have no questions, thank you.
NO QUESTIONS BY MR VICTOR
MR VAN DER MERWE: No questions, thank you Chair.
NO QUESTIONS BY MR VAN DER MERWE
MS VAN DER WALT: No questions.
NO QUESTIONS BY MS VAN DER WALT
MS MAKHUBELE: None.
NO QUESTIONS BY MS MAKHUBELE
ADV STEENKAMP: No questions, Mr Chairman.
NO QUESTIONS BY ADV STEENKAMP
CHAIRPERSON: Thank you.
MR DU TOIT: Thank you, Chairperson.
WITNESS EXCUSED
MR VAN DER MERWE: Chairperson, the next witness is Mr Wybrand Andreas Lodewikus du Toit and he's going to testify in Afrikaans.
