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A-Team (Chesterville, Durban)Explanation MR SIEBERT: Well, the decision was taken by Colonel Goosen. I was part of the investigative team and, as I understood,it would also boil down to assault by not offering medical assistance. Where things really went wrong was in the workplace. I remember we had to just do hard labour and during my life there I worked in two quarries, I worked at the Landbouspan (Agricultural Team) and I worked at a job that I didn’t like, taking out seaweed because sometimes that stuff was rotten, so ... Could you tell us who you were deployed with. You mentioned in your statement that you were with Mr Odendal who else was with you in your team? MR HATTINGH: And Mr Nortje, was he the leader of that team? MR KLOPPER: Chairperson, the Security Branch there was divided into an investigative part and then the tracing part. I was part of the tracing team. We handed them over to the investigative team. I cannot recall who the persons were there, but I was part of the team who traced them. What ... MR VERSTER: That was the person responsible for the project but they would work in a team so the Regional Manager would give an introduction, the Co-ordinator would say something and the presentation would be done by Mr Slang van Zyl. CHAIRPERSON: ...(inaudible) this matter now. At a convenient time would you make whatever documents you may have to Mr Hugo and see whether you can collate those documents and see whether they tie up with the sequential numbering of the documents that were supposed to have been in the docket. And ... They then started asking us questions as to what was happening at Chesterville and what problems we had. We then explained to them what problems that we had. Our major problem was the police, we explained and the vigilante group, the group that was called A Team, which group was assisted quite a ... MR DE KOCK: No, not directly but by means of the legal team it has emerged that he did disappear with a firearm. You submitted the application punctually and you gave your support to the Investigative team of the TRC, is that correct? This is a crucial document, this document it is then said was taken to the police. On arrival with - and that is what I’m trying to discover, without apparently any other communication the team was simply chased away with the police referring to the affidavit that this team has now come to hand ... GEN JOUBERT: After we had identified the three flash point commands, we divided two teams. The one team we sent to the Northern Transvaal under the command of Brigadier Cronje and the other team under the command of Naude. And then in 21 I ask for approval in principle for action 1 or then alternatively for courses 2 and 3. And then I also ask if such approval is granted, that it is suggested that a team be assembled to give details to this plan, because this plan wasn't written for execution but it was written ... MR VAN VUUREN: My direct Commander was Lieut Hechter and he and I and Mr Mamasela worked as a team together, and we received our instructions directly from Brig Cronje, who at that stage was the Divisional Commander of Security Branch Northern Transvaal. MR MOOSA: So how do you explain this which you have incorporated as part of your statement, what other members of Mr du Plessis' team are being here referred to? MR BARNARD: Mr Chairperson, during my detention under Section 29, they appointed a legal team, I had no control over this. After my release from the Section 29 detention and the Harms Commission that followed on that, the situation continued, people were appointed to me. It was not Mr du Plessis ... MR P DU PLESSIS: You were represented by Adv Flip Hattingh as leader of the legal team. MR DE KOCK: No, not directly but by means of the legal team it has emerged that he did disappear with a firearm. MR BERGER: You talk about catching a flight to Frankfurt. On arrival at Frankfurt I saw the rest of the team. We all managed to get on the same flight to South Africa. ADV BOOYENS: I then asked Captain van Zyl to compile a team and to plan how we were going to go over to the action of elimination. I believe that we also discussed this, that the perception had to be created that they had left the country and I can remember that we arranged that the vehicle was to ... |
