AK47

MR PATEL: In addition you claim amnesty for illegal possession of an AK47 and Makaroff pistol and ammunition, do you confirm that?

An AK47's barrel protruded from his body, partly. Next to them in the sand was a F1 hand grenade. And I focused my attention on these two people first. I obtained a rope, it is a piece of nylon rope that had been in one of the vehicles, I think it was about five to six metres long.

MR DE KOCK: Yes Chairperson, that was after he had identified a person who were selling AK47's and a person was arrested, he walked in with a bag of AK's in the Johannesburg Sun Hotel and he was caught and with the payment of his claim, it was the first time that I met him, I did not know who he ...

MR NGWENYA: I used to keep weapons such as Scorpions and two AKs, an AK47 as well.

We learnt this in the Advanced Course. We also learnt about different guns. We learnt about Eastern Block weapons. Those weapons are not used in South Africa. A lot of people don't know about them. If I can be permitted to enumerate the guns that we used, like the AK47 ...

ADV LAMEY: How did the aspect regarding the AK47 come to light?

MR BOTHA: During August 1986 an incident took place where a spouse of an IFP council member was killed and three of his children were injured in an attack with AK47 assault weapons and hand grenades.

it was becoming dark, because when we left KwaZulu-Natal to Nelspruit we were armed with our issued firearms as KwaZulu Police. We were not holding AK47, Makarovs, all those unlawful firearms because we're afraid of meeting a roadblock on the way, and we knew that we'll get firearms in Nelspruit. ...

MR MKWANAZI: It was a series of gunfire, I would not be in a position to count or estimate as to how many times he shot. What I remember he had an AK47 rifle in his possession.

I immediately noticed that there had to have been a very serious shooting incident. Inside the vehicle there were lots of AK47 shells inside the vehicle and also outside the doors which were open. The money, R4½ million, all the money was found in the vehicle as well as firearms.

MR STEYN: Yes that is correct. I do indeed recall that during the incident that evening on the scene after the incident I found an AK47 on the scene.

So I then went to Botswana and then in Botswana on the borders, I went for my weapon, for my AK47 and then we proceeded into South Africa. I entered the Republic by jumping the fence. I didn't use my passport which I've been using all the way and I proceeded to Bloemfontein to go and report ...

MR LOWIES: That's not the question, the question is; senior people would get preference to the AK47's, in terms of custom, do you agree?

MR NKOSI: When we arrived there at Gamedi, we went inside. Makosonki was armed with an AK47, I, myself had five litre petrol and we had asked for it from one gentleman because we knew what was happening, and the gentleman himself did not ask questions, he just gave us the petrol, because he knew ...

MR POTSANE: Well, in our consignment we had AK47's and ammunition, hand grenades, limpet mines, land mines and RPG 7 Bazuka.

MR TSHABALALA: An AK47.

MR WILLS: Well, in the attack in Richmond you said you were using an AK47. Is that correct?

... not my security as such, but the security of other MK cadres too. Then he confirmed that he had arranged with Tabiso Radebe and apparently an AK47, not an AK47 but Stechkin would be ...

MR SIBEKO: In both incidents, were you carrying a weapon or an AK47 which you used?

MR NKONYANE: I had an AK47.