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hostelsExplanation CHAIRPERSON: Well I'm not too sure whether this witness said that there was no television in the hostel at all. Were there televisions in the hostels? MR KHANYILE: No, Mr Strydom, I no longer feel the same. All I can say is that after the incident I was committed to peace because I would say that there are so many things that I have done from that time up to today which we efforts to reconcile the ANC and the IFP, especially in the hostels. ... got limited knowledge concerning that, except that at a certain stage Vlakplaas members told me that they handed over weapons to the Zulus at the hostels, to commit those crimes. At a certain stage I was at the Three Sister Restaurant in Hillbrow with Chappies Kloppers, who then testified at a ... ... gunfire from inside. A policeman came out of the hall and fired at him. He sustained an injury on the right leg and he ran towards the university hostels for help. There he met a woman whom he told that had he been innocently walking past the hall when the shooting started. She dressed his ... in the police station and then the person who is actually watching or guarding them would actually keep in touch with those people who were in their hostels. That’s how I actually got hold of one and then I bought it from one guy by the surname of Ngobo, that is Bhekumuzi Ngobo who was a resident ... ... to negotiate with the police to try and protect or defend the people, though I can't remember the date, when the people were being attacked in the hostels, there was a rumour that there was an attempt for police who were actually taking the people from Mshayazafe hostel to Polla Park. That day ... MR BERGER: Did you liaise with other committees of the IFP Youth in other hostels or other townships. Was there any communication between you? ADV MOTATA: The information we have through evidence, is that it was the IFP and ANC related members who were waging war against each other, and in particular the hostels were perceived to be invested with Inkatha members. Do you bear that knowledge as a resident of Thokoza? MS MTANGA: Can you give us some information on the hostel dwellers that you'd been referring to who had been attacking your community, as to which hostel dwellers were these? Where were these hostels found in Diepkloof, and how were these attacks carried out? ... we have got many areas which we believe or focus to them for this healing and the reconciliation process of the TRC. We merely have thought of the hostels whereby we believe that many hostel dwellers are not in good relationships with the people in the locations or in the townships due to the ... ... not there. I had to explain to them what had happened. I had to explain to them what had happened because they were not there. They were at the hostels. ... MR SHANE: Well Mr Chairman, there is evidence in previous application, that what the police would do for instance, if they didn't shoot members of the SDU, what the police would often do, they would take them to hostels and let them be dealt with by members of the IFP. MR NOSENGA: No, there were meetings called at KwaMadala Hostel and all persons living in the hostels would attend those meetings. ... the wrong office, because that was not the main gate, then we thought that was the main gate but it was a near gate, it was a near entrance to the hostels. So we should have attacked the main gate other side of the mine, so we did not reach that point. So that is why I think we won only one ... this Commission and we see according to your statement that you are one of those who were victims between the factions of the ANC and the IFP in the hostels but before you can give your testimony I'd request you to stand up so that you can take the ... ... of the Casper and using it for political purposes, in doing so they attacked IFP members occupying Kutusa Hostel and another hostel, firing at the hostels and the people living therein. The attack took the form of a ruse to lull the occupants of those two buildings into a false sense of ... MS NGWANDI: As they were going on they decided to go and join Inkatha, that's why they went to the hostels. ... just forgotten the name. That is the hostel that is further down, nearer to our section. I am not quite sure, I cannot differentiate between the hostels in terms of ... Children were not spared the horror. Schooling in the area, came to a complete standstill. Children barely reaching their teens, left schools to defend life and property. Areas situated near hostels, were particularly affected. CHAIRPERSON: These individuals that you killed did not come from the hostels, right? |
