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hostelsExplanation ... not there. I had to explain to them what had happened. I had to explain to them what had happened because they were not there. They were at the hostels. ... ... the wrong office, because that was not the main gate, then we thought that was the main gate but it was a near gate, it was a near entrance to the hostels. So we should have attacked the main gate other side of the mine, so we did not reach that point. So that is why I think we won only one ... MR SHANE: Well Mr Chairman, there is evidence in previous application, that what the police would do for instance, if they didn't shoot members of the SDU, what the police would often do, they would take them to hostels and let them be dealt with by members of the IFP. MR NOSENGA: No, there were meetings called at KwaMadala Hostel and all persons living in the hostels would attend those meetings. the Committee. There was violence in Thokoza. I was staying in the hostel. I arrived there in 1986. I was working in the mines. I stayed in the hostels and in 1990 violence started. I was running a business and one morning in 1990 in the hostel some of the people were killed there because of ... school-going child and so the message gave instance compliance to all from this and these mobilising actions. However, the men living in single sex hostels were without families or children and did not receive the messages and were seen to be breaking rank from community actions. As they flocked ... ... were ANC members, and thereafter some people from the rural areas actually got houses inside the township by communicating with the people in the hostels, then they started becoming IFP activists, who are outsiders, but now have become ... MR STEWART: Thereafter you did some work for Themba Xhosa including gun running and supplying of guns to hostels and so on. Is that right? ... I asked the police to come and guard us because I wanted to do a funeral for my children. I didn't get any assistance from them. People from the hostels, and neighbours who were Inkatha members, and neighbours who were ANC, came and assisted me, and they also came to the funeral. After that I ... and repair that damage. Things that happened in the past won't happen again. We tried to stop everything but still there was still shooting at the hostels. I was a commander then of the ones who were fighting and we decided that I delegate authority amongst my people. ...(indistinct) and the ... ... Honourable Chairperson, I see some of my colleagues have appeared here. The next matter will be that of Mr Olifant in the Umzimhlope and Dube Hostels. I see it's 11 o'clock. I don't know whether or not the Committee would like to take a tea adjournment at this stage and we can just ... ADV GCABASHE: Now would that have been very close to one of the hostels, on Khumalo Street? ... 1990, in the sense of a conflict or a fight involving people who apparently supported the Inkatha Freedom Party and who were mainly resident in the hostels in and around Thokoza and members of the community in Thokoza, predominantly members or supporters of the African National Congress. Now ... MR MKHWANAZI: They did not have a fixed place, they even stayed at the hostels around Vereeniging. This went on and people were being used and the community police were also used. There were also hostels specifically the D-hostel which was fenced and whenever the men in the hostel had visitors who were females, these women would be raided at two o'clock in the morning and we used to watch all ... ... previously unknown in the country (particularly Renamo style violence on trains, drive-by shootings and massed attacks on township residents from hostels which had been deliberately converted into informal military barracks). This terror campaign against black civilians was ascribed to ... ... en kyk en toe gaan ek na die - na die bos se kant toe. Maar voor dit het ek gesien daar staan ‘n persoon wie onbekend aan my is in - een van die hostels vanaf Dairy Belle hostel, hy het daar gestaan daar heel bo en deur ‘n venster gekyk reg op ons. Tot vandag toe weet ek nie wie die persoon ... MR THULO: They would ask questions about people who were not seen regularly near the hostels and they would use Zulu. Then if you are not able to respond in Zulu, therefore you would be attacked, especially when you can tell them that you come from Beirut or Cathrada or Sesulu or other sections, ... MR MNGUNI: I was staying in the township. They only knew - they knew that the IFP members were only in the hostels, they did not know that there were some members in the townships. I started suspecting that something was going on, but at the time, the harassment of the community was not common practice. I mean concerning the involvement of girls, because what was common was that the IFP members used to come to the township, kidnap girls and take them to the hostels. |
