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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation MR NEL: Paragraph 14, Mr Hanton, you deal with the incident in question, where you received instructions from Col de Kock regarding what you had to do, and you say there that you believed that the authority to take part in the operation, emanated from higher authority. ... in our office. Van Jaarsveld was present in the bus while we were waiting for Mamasela to lure this security guard to the bus. This whole operation and the interrogation in the Warmbad environment was under instruction of Van Jaarsveld and also he participated in the assault and he was ... MR LAMEY: Because nobody mentioned Mr Willemse's name here actually and if Mr Willemse on the basis that he went along with you to visit Mr Radebe, then Mr Willemse would have known about the actual operation. MR PIGOU: Did you not find it strange Father Mkhatswa that you were engaged in such an operation? I mean I personally find it very peculiar that to find out something what is essentially very simple and straightforward whether someone is being held against their will or whether they are being ... MR TOPI DOMINIC TLADI: In September 1984, it was on the 3rd, in Sharpeville we were having an operation clean up. Just when we finished cleaning up we decided to go and have some lunch. Just before we went home we stood at the corner of the street together with my friends. We were talking and as ... ... what I did say I delegated my powers, I mean you don't expect the Commissioner to go and sit there and really go into detailed arrangements for an operation like that. And as I have explained Brigadier Ngcobo and Major Simms they were the two people in charge down there, but I went there as ... The second announcement is that if you are in possession of a cellphone, please switch that phone off now as it can be very disturbing particularly for the witnesses. Thank you very much for your co-operation. Mr Flores, you've prepared an application in terms of Section 18 of Act 34 of 1995, presented it to the TRC Committee in Cape Town and provided your full co-operation with the TRC Committee's Investigating Team, is that correct? MR VISSER: Alright. Would that be a fund or a payment when an MK cadre was going to start a new operation? MR WESSELS: And you then, indeed, at the second opportunity comprised the operation or the organisation. MR DU PLESSIS: And your viewpoints were also in this operation that you were under the overhead command of Col de Kock, is that correct? "That's correct, but the operation started after the conversation with Col van Rensburg." Mr Vermeulen, you are an applicant for amnesty in this matter and you've given your full co-operation to the TRC, is that correct? ... I was not there", I had to be reminded yesterday that Mr Molefi - that is contrary to the source that you claim that you had, came to Kimberly for Operation Barcelona because he had to mediate between that problem, between COSAS and the Youth League - nothing about the grenade. And then I said ... MR CORNELIUS: Did you or any of the other members consume liquor before the operation was launched? CHAIRPERSON: Mr Nel after the operation who did you have to report to? ... it affected my life totally. I'm at this stage, you can say I'm, I can't do what I could do before this incident. You know I've only got the full operation of one of my legs, my one foot is totally unfunctional, you know so it's totally changed my whole life and same with my in-laws as well you ... "We dropped the IFP Chairlady and we discussed that we should indeed have this operation. We returned home, the three of us. As we were at Nklasagazi before we crossed the bridge, people from Montabela should know this area, we met some women who were standing along the road. ... de Kock for arms to be used by Craig Duli in an attempted coup d'état on the former Transkei. The Applicant did not participate in the actual operation. He supplied the arms to a fellow security policeman Willie Nortje, who presumably took it to Eugene de ... ... we can go back to the bank and get the money. I have already mentioned that we were not taking money just for fun, but we wanted to support our ... |
