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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation MR TOPI DOMINIC TLADI: In September 1984, it was on the 3rd, in Sharpeville we were having an operation clean up. Just when we finished cleaning up we decided to go and have some lunch. Just before we went home we stood at the corner of the street together with my friends. We were talking and as ... that if we undertook the practise run during the day, it would become general knowledge, we wanted to keep it a secret because of the situation. The operation was to take place at night and it would be incorrect for them to practise during the day for something which they were going to do at ... I have studied the relevant parts of Col Coetzee’s Amnesty Application in so far as it deals with the execution of the operation and I accord therewith, specifically with regard to the role that was filled by myself. MR BOOYENS: And further that you as the Technical Division received orders, you were never in a position to consider the merits of an operation, is that correct? MR LAMEY: Because nobody mentioned Mr Willemse's name here actually and if Mr Willemse on the basis that he went along with you to visit Mr Radebe, then Mr Willemse would have known about the actual operation. school, what has happened in the high school. Are you already doing national service by imitation, and I am referring to the cadet corp that was in operation, has been part of the South African Defence Act since 1912. And I think thirdly your employers, because I want to get back to ... ... what I did say I delegated my powers, I mean you don't expect the Commissioner to go and sit there and really go into detailed arrangements for an operation like that. And as I have explained Brigadier Ngcobo and Major Simms they were the two people in charge down there, but I went there as ... MR GALELA: What I would like to say is that I did not live peacefully because what the police did then was that they had a, they conducted an operation known as Hot Pursuit and even then they said that there were many ways to skin a cat. This is what the Boers said. Thereafter they killed the ... MR BIZOS: "It would have the effect that particularly the youth would vote for them. I reported to Commandant Roodt to this effect. Roodt then also, himself, took control of this operation and saw to it that the funds would not go to Mr Clive Derby-Lewis.". The second announcement is that if you are in possession of a cellphone, please switch that phone off now as it can be very disturbing particularly for the witnesses. Thank you very much for your co-operation. Mr Flores, you've prepared an application in terms of Section 18 of Act 34 of 1995, presented it to the TRC Committee in Cape Town and provided your full co-operation with the TRC Committee's Investigating Team, is that correct? MR DU PLESSIS: And your viewpoints were also in this operation that you were under the overhead command of Col de Kock, is that correct? MR VISSER: Alright. Would that be a fund or a payment when an MK cadre was going to start a new operation? MR PIGOU: Did you not find it strange Father Mkhatswa that you were engaged in such an operation? I mean I personally find it very peculiar that to find out something what is essentially very simple and straightforward whether someone is being held against their will or whether they are being ... The first applicant stood guard outside the bank. At first the operation worked according to how he had planned. But whilst the others were inside the police appeared and foiled the robbery. ... chap, that from experience with prior detentions, apparently in Natal, he mentioned that during those periods of detention he offered no co-operation, that he would ignore one and that on a different occasion in King William's Town, he had beaten a security officer, a certain Mr Hattingh ... MR RAMMUSI: I actually delegated. If I had an operation, I had members of the units who are given different responsibilities. ... these pellets a wad is blown out at the same time. The wad in the cartridge keeps the pellets separate from the shot and allows for more efficient operation of the cartridge. As the pellets exit from the muzzle of the weapon so they start to spread and that spread can be used to give an ... MR VISSER: So what must be inferred from your evidence is that there was no danger whatsoever for any life or property involved in this operation for which you gave the authorisation? MR J KOK: It was basically, as I said, it was an operation that came from de Kock. It had authorisation from the top. Dirk Coetzee was the target. The package must be prepared, there's already surveillance going on. I heard about this in the hallways, it was not official and that this package ... |
