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Operation Zero ZeroExplanation ... therefore they are going to help us to conquer the ANC. We were told that we will be given different kinds of firearms as soon as we start our operation. Briefly I will say the aim was that we should use these arms to conquer the ANC and the ... thus enabling this to be not some small hole in the corner operation but something which can be experienced by the entire nation. ... one of them and slapped her on the face to compel her to keep quiet. he further states that he had a particular interest in the success of the operation because at the time hew was a member of C2 and was doing research on MK and APLA members' activities. They had photo albums of refugees as ... MR VISSER: Can you recall who accompanied you there and who participated in the operation? MR TOPI DOMINIC TLADI: In September 1984, it was on the 3rd, in Sharpeville we were having an operation clean up. Just when we finished cleaning up we decided to go and have some lunch. Just before we went home we stood at the corner of the street together with my friends. We were talking and as ... ... what I did say I delegated my powers, I mean you don't expect the Commissioner to go and sit there and really go into detailed arrangements for an operation like that. And as I have explained Brigadier Ngcobo and Major Simms they were the two people in charge down there, but I went there as ... MR LAMEY: Because nobody mentioned Mr Willemse's name here actually and if Mr Willemse on the basis that he went along with you to visit Mr Radebe, then Mr Willemse would have known about the actual operation. MR WESSELS: And you then, indeed, at the second opportunity comprised the operation or the organisation. ... Musi and them but listen then, make a plan, you know, show, you know, draw a sketch plan of their houses etc., you know, one doesn't embark on an operation like this without a sketch plan. Or it could be that Musi had said, look these are our plans, we've got a sketch plan. But the point is ... MR PIGOU: Did you not find it strange Father Mkhatswa that you were engaged in such an operation? I mean I personally find it very peculiar that to find out something what is essentially very simple and straightforward whether someone is being held against their will or whether they are being ... MR DU PLESSIS: And your viewpoints were also in this operation that you were under the overhead command of Col de Kock, is that correct? MR VISSER: Alright. Would that be a fund or a payment when an MK cadre was going to start a new operation? MR BIZOS: "It would have the effect that particularly the youth would vote for them. I reported to Commandant Roodt to this effect. Roodt then also, himself, took control of this operation and saw to it that the funds would not go to Mr Clive Derby-Lewis.". Mr Vermeulen, you are an applicant for amnesty in this matter and you've given your full co-operation to the TRC, is that correct? MR GALELA: What I would like to say is that I did not live peacefully because what the police did then was that they had a, they conducted an operation known as Hot Pursuit and even then they said that there were many ways to skin a cat. This is what the Boers said. Thereafter they killed the ... The second announcement is that if you are in possession of a cellphone, please switch that phone off now as it can be very disturbing particularly for the witnesses. Thank you very much for your co-operation. Mr Flores, you've prepared an application in terms of Section 18 of Act 34 of 1995, presented it to the TRC Committee in Cape Town and provided your full co-operation with the TRC Committee's Investigating Team, is that correct? MR BIZOS: Aren’t you really contrasting your attitude in relation to co-operation between what you were prepared to tell the SAP and what you were not prepared to tell these foreigners? During the night of 25/26 September 1986 Charles Sebe was freed from the Middledrift Prison in an operation conducted by a special unit. He was then taken to safe sanctity in Transkei. We went to NU6 to do something called reconnaissance, to reconnoitre the place where this operation was going to take place. We came back. We went there again with another comrade called Bongani Dukwana, who was the main person who knew this policeman, because we did not know this policeman. |