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PassExplanation CHAIRPERSON: Yes. The one sitting on the bed is R1, so this will be Exhibit R2, thank you Mr Wills. Just pass it along the line, I think. Mr Wills, do you have any idea as to more or less when this photograph would have been taken? MR RICHARD: I pass, okay, carry on. MR MALAN: And then just to satisfy my need for information on this, I assume you didn't only pass on to Coetzee information on these specific addresses but you passed onto him other information too that you acquired on other addresses, with earlier visits with the informer. Or did you only provide ... and those were difficult times. I'm not sure of that first aspect. When he told me this after Ndaba had returned, I could recollect it, but it did pass me by for quite a long ... MR RICHARD: Pass me your recording thing. You obviously know what you said in your statement to the ITU, and there's quite a lengthy passage about you becoming disenchanted with the IFP and that you decided that you wanted to go back to the ANC, that you had discussions with the various people and that eventually - I think the gist of it ... MR WAGENER: And from whom did you receive the guidelines that you had to pass on to your understudies? MR SITHOLE: I did pass through Swaziland. CHAIRPERSON: Yes, we understand that, you may pass, I think we've actually traversed paragraph 10, Mr Panday. MR MOGOAI: My Lord, let me explain this to you. While these cars were driving, one would pass the rest and park alongside the road and we would drive passed and then he would follow us, just like that. MS VAN DER WALT: How did you pass the border? CHAIRPERSON: Yes, because I think the thing was, he was in fact a member of APLA and PAC and he was abusing that membership to pass information on. ... to listen to us, how we've been harassed and tortured in 1993. As Rose has explained everything it was a painful year to me. But what I'd like to pass on to the community of Thandukukhanya is that we thank them in the special way they've worked with us, because those days were difficult and ... ... car after walking some few metres and then we heard some shots. I was in the middle. Between myself and my brother there were two bullets which passed. He was struck by the third bullet. I was shot in the thigh. After that shot the car went off the road and inside another yard. Two your ... a useless witness, we must disregard whatever he said, but he brought that information, it wasn't in his interests to manufacture information, or to pass through incorrect ... MR HATTINGH: On your way back from Penge Mine could you pass judgement by what you observed or what Mr de Kock said to you as to how he felt about the situation? MR THULO: They were in houses next to the tennis court. We did not agree with them that they should pass through Khumalo Street when they were going to the cemetery. MR PULE: From Zeerust to Botswana, to Botswana's border, you pass through Braklaagte. It is about 24 kilometres from Zeerust on your way to Botswana. ... when they were meeting there to plan their harassment operations, so we decided that that was the right place, so that the police vehicle could not pass there. If I remember well it was at night, at around 9 to 10 o'clock at night. It was the three of us, in fact we were four. Our drive was ... this Colt even ‘though I cannot remember how many occupants were inside. The one person that I can still remember is the one who was sitting on the passenger seat, and I also discovered later that it was Mr Dlamini. Others got at the back and they explained and said, hey man you have to drive ... |