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PassExplanation ... and they asked are you Duma and I said yes. They said dress up and come along with us. I dressed up, I left with them. I actually took my pass and I went with them. They went to Don Gwise (?) and he was not there. They left for Oupa (?) place and they found him and they took him to ... ... on the document on your papers and that there is another one that he wanted to give you yesterday and it is at that page 22. Perhaps, I, could I pass that ... ... would pass Vlakplaas, reach a T-junction and turn right. This gravel road then led back to Attridgeville MR PHOSA: Okay, let’s take that. Now most people I know of, in fact all that I’ve come across who need any substance to assist them whilst they write exams, they’re struggling to keep awake - not to fall asleep, they don’t want to sleep. Don’t you know that people want to keep awake to pass exams? CHAIRPERSON: We welcome you Freda for accompanying your father. I will pass you to Wynand Malan who will let you take the oath. different time and pass judgement and give us your view of the matter. ... important and we’ve got to find the time so that everybody has a fair hearing, and we are aware too of the anguish through which you have had to pass over so many years and, in a way, although we’re still going to hear your testimony, it is wonderful that you have been vindicated. And we ... MR DUKADA: And then after you completed your police training, there was a pass-out parade in Umtata, is that correct? MR HATTINGH: On your way back from Penge Mine could you pass judgement by what you observed or what Mr de Kock said to you as to how he felt about the situation? CHAIRPERSON: Yes, because I think the thing was, he was in fact a member of APLA and PAC and he was abusing that membership to pass information on. ... Wesselsbron. I left on Friday deliberately late in the afternoon, around six to seven o'clock, knowing that the taxi would take me next to, would pass next to the supermarket. I alighted the taxi at the taxi rank, becuase they were waiting for taxis from the township, because that taxi started ... ... were issued through the Department of the then Chief Minister, M G Buthelezi, to headmen and chiefs. These headmen and chiefs were then able to pass these weapons on through use of permits to members under their control. The G3 rifles were officially issued for the protection of KwaZulu ... MR MBANDAZAYO: Now let me pass and come exactly again, it was asked many times, I've come exactly to the order. Can you again exactly tell the Committee what was the specific order that you were given by Themba Ncapai? Let me tell you what. Was the order specifically that you go to the farm and ... MR RICHARD: Pass me your recording thing. MR MALAN: And then just to satisfy my need for information on this, I assume you didn't only pass on to Coetzee information on these specific addresses but you passed onto him other information too that you acquired on other addresses, with earlier visits with the informer. Or did you only provide ... and those were difficult times. I'm not sure of that first aspect. When he told me this after Ndaba had returned, I could recollect it, but it did pass me by for quite a long ... You obviously know what you said in your statement to the ITU, and there's quite a lengthy passage about you becoming disenchanted with the IFP and that you decided that you wanted to go back to the ANC, that you had discussions with the various people and that eventually - I think the gist of it ... CHAIRPERSON: We do not have comforting words that we can pass to you. We understand the hurt that you experienced. We pray God Almighty that He may bless you and let it be Him who will be gracious to you together with everybody who is here and a lot of them who are not here who will sympathise ... ... one occasion that he should resign. I can dwell for hours on the distressing relations which existed between us. I am not here today, however, to pass judgement. After all, all of us stand to be judged one day and I am painfully aware of my own sins and ... "My task was to find out what her address was in Swaziland and to confirm it and then to pass on the information to the relevant security branch. Furthermore I was responsible for the preparation of the vehicle with which she was to be abducted from Swaziland." |