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Only a court of law can find Doctor Basson guilty of an offence. Only a court of law can pass sentence of a fine or of a period of imprisonment that is effective. This Commission as far as I am concerned is not vested with those powers and is incompetent to make such a finding.

of the questions which you want answered will also be answered. But thank you for coming, and as soon as we have more information we will certainly pass that on to you. Thank ...

MR BRINK: I do. I beg your pardon, Mr Chairman, I was distracted by preparing my next question, I will let it pass.

... to a policeman, means he must now hand him over to some other body, or do you think it means Botha will continue to get the information and he will pass the information on to de ...

MR RICHARD: Now did you - were you lucky on the first pass?

ADV DE JAGER: Did they visit him in the room or did they only pass along?

MR BOOYENS: Just a further aspect, I’d like to take you back to - yesterday you testified to the fact of how you stopped the people at Olifants Pass. The identification of these four persons, how was this done?

There was an intervention by Mr Semenya, where he complained about the process, I’ll by-pass that and go on to page 19 where I go on.

MR HATTINGH: Could you just give us some indication as to what standard at school did you pass?

... the Main Road. I was the first person to cross that and the landmine was placed in a very narrow gateway. Only a single vehicle would be able to pass through the gateway at the time. The landmine was planted in a hole which had previously been made by the vehicles and because of the rain the ...

Now, to get to this women’s house, we had to pass the beer hall and when we passed behind the beer hall a policeman, Steve Mbushwa arrived on the scene and he wanted to disperse us. And we were quite a sizeable group together and we were singing and walking passed the beer hall and then the sort ...

ADV SANDI: You have already mentioned the requests to this Commission concerning yourself and your children. Do you have any other requests for the Commission to pass on to the President?

... with the ANC ideologies and when he was supposed to take an ID he said Mandela was going to be released and he was going to bring an end to the pass laws. He seemed elated by the idea of Mandela being released from prison. So I could say he was a member of the ANC though he was as young as 18 ...

ADV BIZOS: Yes, but I am talking about Mr Goosen. Mr Goosen wasn't in the room, he must have got the information from you and your colleagues in order to pass it on to his Minister, to your Minister and his Minister?

MR NYAWUZA: That issue was discussed and it transpired that Mr Nyawuza had a vehicle and he could be asked to transport us to that place. Mr Mthambo then ordered them to pass by Mr Nyawuza's home to inform them that he should take us to Ngonyameni on Friday.

ADV GCABASHE: When did he pass away?

MR PHAMA: We did not do anything to the young ones, we let them pass and the older people, those are the people that we shot at, but the group that was in front of them we did nothing to them. That is why I am saying that was not the very first group. If there were other people who were coming, ...

MR DU PREEZ: Chairperson, that is a place where many taxis pass during the day so at that time during the night it was a quiet place, but during the day it's a very busy place.

... mark come into my mind. In the middle of the night there's a van parked, his lights off, next to a stadium in a dark corner. Immediately when we pass, cars were in front of us but when our car passed they put on their lights and immediately follow us. To my mind comes up that the first thing ...

MR PRIOR: And you allowed the vehicle then to pass over the bridge?