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PassExplanation Showing 661 to 680 of 833 First Page•Previous Page 30 •31 •32 •33 •34 •35 •36 •37 •38 Next Page•Last Pageme, but they didn't kill me. I only tied me on my back and kicked me inside the Land Rover and piled a lot of newspapers on top of me, so that if we pass any control posts those local people wouldn't see that there SOWETO HEARING ... ... why. This person probably had access to information about informers, about information about reports that came in etc. etc. which he could pass on to the enemy. With great respect, Chairperson, if Botha tells you that it was important to find it out there's no reason to doubt that ... MR OBOSE: And to be given instructions by the head of State and or the counsel and they would in turn pass it on to the police? ... This is a self-serving myth. It is patentlydishonest to claim to-day that any of us were unaware of apartheid,unaware of forced removals and pass laws, unaware of deaths indetention or unaware of the killing of children in our streets. ... ... waited years to be shed. It is in order that truth should be uncovered and justice seen to be done. Even though it is not the work of the TRC to pass judgement or sentence on the oppressors, it has led many perpetrators of crimes to seek amnesty. That is good for them. The Chairman may speak ... that that is Molope seated. They were seated under a tree or next to a police, a green police van. It wasn't as close as we are now because we were passing. They were also underground. I couldn't stay there for hours looking and checking his complexion, checking his height and all those things. ... ... My question is, because you were related to this family and you're now alleging that they were IFP members that's why they were attacked, did you pass on this information to your comrades, that you know that those people because they're relatives, you have information that they are IFP members ... many of these conflicts innocent bystanders would be caught up in the crossfire. It has been suggested that the killing of Esther Masuku cannot pass the test of proportionality if the objective, according to the Applicants, was to intimidate Oupa Masuku to refrain from his activities. We ... MR BLEKI: He walked up and down the streets with his weapon, remarks that he would pass that the communist is dead, he is now at peace. MR SINGO: I did standard six, but I did not pass that standard. MR ALBERTS: My question is how come that you could not pass through that area any more? MR KRIEL: No, because if I remember correctly we had more than one Victor in the service, and for me just to say that he was the one would be very - it would be un- I cannot say that to the Commission because I honestly don't know, and I will be lying to you if I pass any comment on that. ... I left messages. There was a certain gentleman who always answered these calls, I think he was called Mofukeng, then Mofukeng would say, he would pass the messages over to Chris Hani, but no reply, and I thought to myself that I'm just wasting my time here. So I went on and on asking everybody, ... ... people who were taking our messages to the Chief's kraal, because we were too little (indistinct) we had to tell them what they were supposed to pass on to the Chief. If there was anything that the Chief wanted to know, the Chief would tell induna Matlala and induna Matlala would tell us. If ... ... you went to see Comrade Jackie and Peter Mokaba but you received no reply from them, whereas in your chief evidence you said they said they will pass the information over to comrade Africa who will take it to the Peace Forum and it will be dealt with from there. So these two conflicting ... MR TANDA: No, it did not pass, it stopped. MR SAPELE: We usually see it when we pass the reception. MR HATTINGH: Now as the commander of Vlakplaas, did you in the morning directly go to Vlakplaas or did you have to pass by head office first? MS MTJALI: It is not good at all. We have tried to engage the street committee but this old man does not want to understand. He'll always insult my mother. When my mother passes by to the shop he will always say to my mother she should not pass there and he will insult her. MR MABUZA: Just before you get to the hostel, you have to pass a few streets. The street that I have mentioned. Between Schoeman Road, the Schoeman Road was the boundary between the ANC and the IFP, we had to fight the people who were nearer to the boundary. |