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PassExplanation MR DU PREEZ: Chairperson, that is a place where many taxis pass during the day so at that time during the night it was a quiet place, but during the day it's a very busy place. ... mark come into my mind. In the middle of the night there's a van parked, his lights off, next to a stadium in a dark corner. Immediately when we pass, cars were in front of us but when our car passed they put on their lights and immediately follow us. To my mind comes up that the first thing ... MS SOOKA: ... in that hearing. So if you do feel like making a submission that is available. I am going to pass you back to the Chairperson. MS GOSO: Can we pass on. Do you, what do you understand to be meant by a roll call? MR BUTHELEZI: I was afraid and hoped that my Attorney would pass on whatever information that I had given him, until such time that I saw for myself what the process was. ... is that correct? They could contact their commanders through the intervention of Mtura. They could phone the restaurant and he would be able to pass on information or give them information, is that ... ... with the ANC ideologies and when he was supposed to take an ID he said Mandela was going to be released and he was going to bring an end to the pass laws. He seemed elated by the idea of Mandela being released from prison. So I could say he was a member of the ANC though he was as young as 18 ... ADV SANDI: You have already mentioned the requests to this Commission concerning yourself and your children. Do you have any other requests for the Commission to pass on to the President? MR NYAWUZA: That issue was discussed and it transpired that Mr Nyawuza had a vehicle and he could be asked to transport us to that place. Mr Mthambo then ordered them to pass by Mr Nyawuza's home to inform them that he should take us to Ngonyameni on Friday. ADV BIZOS: Yes, but I am talking about Mr Goosen. Mr Goosen wasn't in the room, he must have got the information from you and your colleagues in order to pass it on to his Minister, to your Minister and his Minister? ... the Main Road. I was the first person to cross that and the landmine was placed in a very narrow gateway. Only a single vehicle would be able to pass through the gateway at the time. The landmine was planted in a hole which had previously been made by the vehicles and because of the rain the ... Now, to get to this women’s house, we had to pass the beer hall and when we passed behind the beer hall a policeman, Steve Mbushwa arrived on the scene and he wanted to disperse us. And we were quite a sizeable group together and we were singing and walking passed the beer hall and then the sort ... Now this happened also from the start of MK. We attacked Pass offices, but we tried to attack them when the people were not there. We even have in Durban, in the trial of the first comrades in 1963, I think it is Ebrahim Ismail, Ronnie was part of that group of terrorists - (laughter) - where in ... |