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people's warExplanation CHAIRPERSON: Well I think we're all in your hands. Is it likely to be anything that people would want other witnesses to deal with? MR SIBEKO: According to the list and dates for today, this was the number of people but there are some other applicants here for other dates. MR BRITZ: He only told me that there were problems with the operation and that we had to go to Middelburg to go and meet people there. When they arrived they kicked me on the spot. At about 7 o'clock they took me to another office, where there was a huge guy who cross-questioned me, asking me whether I know I am apprehended. I told him I do not why I am apprehended or arrested because I never did anything wrong. And he said ... We went to the government mortuary. I was the first to get in and they said can you identify him among the five people? And I found him there. He was among the five dead people. His cheek didn't have the skin. When we left for home to prepare for the funeral. And after the funeral the police ... The police was shooting at the people and I didn't manage to survive, I was also shot with two pelletS that ultimately made me fall. While I was still on the floor I heard another two shots and they went straight into my leg MMABATHO HEARING TRC/NORTH WEST Patrick thank you very much for telling us about your story. There might be other people on the panel who would like to ask you some questions, but we are very aware that it’s - it’s very difficult and it’s painful and we want to make it as easy as possible for you. You probably know from seeing television about previous hearings, that in other places where we’ve been, the members of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission have gone to one town and asked people from all the surrounding areas to come them. This time when we realised what long distances people ... MR KHUBHEKA: I was in possession of a 9mm short, it was myself as well as Mfanafuthi, Mr Ngwenya, the two of us had firearms. When we got there, the door was open and the people were sitting around the table. That is when we pointed the firearms at them and told them the reason for our visit, we ... 2. Amnesty is GRANTED in respect of the murder of an unknown person and the attempted murder of an unknown number of people, all being supporters of the UDF/ANC at the Esikhomplazi Shop at or near Ermelo during 1990. The committee is of the opinion that Gerbrecht Salomina Van Wyk and/or her dependants, as also the people injured, are victims in relation to the incident and they are accordingly referred to the committee on Reparation and Rehabilitation in terms of Section 22(1) of the Act. 3. All the applicants were members of a political party and acted against people they believed to be their political opponents. Although they aver that they received an order to kill the deceased, the Committee cannot find that such an order was explicitly given,but on evidence, it is clear that ... MR KHOTLE: I will start with Great Storm. Firstly, Operation Great Storm, or in the 1990's was declared the decade of intensification of the armed struggle and the people's offensive. That is where the Operation Great Storm was originated from. testified or attested to affidavits before us and accordingly we have no details of such people. Nevertheless, it is clear that should they come forward and satisfy the Reparation Committee that they were injured during the course of the incidents they would be entitled to be treated as victims ... CHAIRPERSON: My concern Mr van den Berg, is that we would like to finish this matter. We've lost a lot of time today, we started late. I don't want to adjourn until tomorrow and then find we can't finish, because unfortunately tomorrow we will have to adjourn early because certain people have to ... MR VISSER: You mentioned to him, or mention was made that the persons wanted to go to Swaziland in order to establish contact with the ANC MK in Swaziland in order to further the people's war strategy and to entrench and promote this amongst the students in South Africa? place called Makaleni. It was very bad, from 1985 and 1986 we couldn't sleep at night because there was war between Azapo and UDF. We would get into bed dressed, even as parents. Our children could not be at home for a long time, and I could see that Azapo and UDF were fighting because there ... me that the robbery was an operation planned by PAC or its military wing APLA. As indicated earlier, it appeared that the Police had acquired prior warning of the robbery operation. In fact various other PAC members including Horatius Motswadi and others were also arrested. During the ... ... we understood at some stage, never should start off and say that, you will recall that by that time, we had already become accustomed, or rather aware that the enemy at the time had already embarked on a program which was to turn some of our people into what we now refer to as Askaris and at ... According to the applicant he was instructed by Jerome Mncwabe to do something that would scare the UDF people living in Zone One to such an extent that they would leave the area. The objective was to cause the UDF people staying in Zone One to flee the area so that it could become IFP territory. ... |