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people's warExplanation Even people here can see how people have caused damage to you. We shall now hand over to Dr Mapula Ramashala who is going to help you and ask questions based on your statement. ADV VISSER: And the identification of the three people which could eventually be done, how was that done? Whether they were people that she agreed with politically or not, she was always fiercely there and I would just like us to acknowledge the presence please, of Helen Suzmann, thank you. MRS MATSELETSELE: According to the information that I got they left together. It's one of the things that I forgot to tell you. Together with my mum we used to go to Juwel's mother, that's where our hope lay because we thought she would tell us any information with regard to the children, but she ... knew that there was a need to attack a farmer in order to pursue our struggle, the operation. Mr Fourie, as I have said, the people that were with knew him and we went into his house. MRS MHLAWULI: Yes. So we went to the house and I was very thirsty and then my sister said I should not drink because people had the belief that if were to drink water, I was going to die so I slept in one of the bedrooms and at night, my cousin-brother lifted me up. MR MDLULWA: There was a lot of confusion, full of people, I cannot remember who else was there. During this shoot-out there was a pandemonium, the others were crying on the other side as we were also returning fire, we also had to save them, try to remove them and try to calm them down. MR MAKANANISE: He was asked as to who the co-witchcraft practising people were. MR NXIWENI: When he was detained for the second time in Natal, I met his friend, who used to frequent my place. It is Matiwani Flats, it was next to the hospital. This friend was from Butterworth and he was Mr Ghaso. He gave me the information that they were a group of twelve and they were all ... MR NYAWUZA: You've stated in your evidence-in-chief that you felt the prison authorities at the time, people that you worked with, were part of the system. Can you briefly tell us why you say so? However, we are not satisfied that the killings and attempted killings occurred within the political context. None of the victims were positively identified as being among the group that earlier passed by Lingani's house. The victims were severely tortured. They were asked about their ... 3. All the applicants were members of a political party and acted against people they believed to be their political opponents. Although they aver that they received an order to kill the deceased, the Committee cannot find that such an order was explicitly given,but on evidence, it is clear that ... MR VISSER: You mentioned to him, or mention was made that the persons wanted to go to Swaziland in order to establish contact with the ANC MK in Swaziland in order to further the people's war strategy and to entrench and promote this amongst the students in South Africa? MR KHOTLE: I will start with Great Storm. Firstly, Operation Great Storm, or in the 1990's was declared the decade of intensification of the armed struggle and the people's offensive. That is where the Operation Great Storm was originated from. testified or attested to affidavits before us and accordingly we have no details of such people. Nevertheless, it is clear that should they come forward and satisfy the Reparation Committee that they were injured during the course of the incidents they would be entitled to be treated as victims ... CHAIRPERSON: My concern Mr van den Berg, is that we would like to finish this matter. We've lost a lot of time today, we started late. I don't want to adjourn until tomorrow and then find we can't finish, because unfortunately tomorrow we will have to adjourn early because certain people have to ... According to the applicant he was instructed by Jerome Mncwabe to do something that would scare the UDF people living in Zone One to such an extent that they would leave the area. The objective was to cause the UDF people staying in Zone One to flee the area so that it could become IFP territory. ... ... we understood at some stage, never should start off and say that, you will recall that by that time, we had already become accustomed, or rather aware that the enemy at the time had already embarked on a program which was to turn some of our people into what we now refer to as Askaris and at ... place called Makaleni. It was very bad, from 1985 and 1986 we couldn't sleep at night because there was war between Azapo and UDF. We would get into bed dressed, even as parents. Our children could not be at home for a long time, and I could see that Azapo and UDF were fighting because there ... me that the robbery was an operation planned by PAC or its military wing APLA. As indicated earlier, it appeared that the Police had acquired prior warning of the robbery operation. In fact various other PAC members including Horatius Motswadi and others were also arrested. During the ... |
