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people's warExplanation Showing 281 to 300 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 11 •12 •13 •14 •15 •16 •17 •18 •19 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: Sorry, can I interrupt, as I understand the position, once you came down into Natal, you were then under the instructions of the Natal Security People? MR MTHETHWA: What they told us was that during that time the ANC was fighting for the freedom of the people and they wanted there to be negotiations between the Black as well as the White people, but it seems the White people didn't want to understand the viewpoint of the Black people. That is ... MS KIVA: Yes, people were assaulted that year. MS SKHOSANA:: I was not at home, I was at my friends. Sometimes I used to sleep over at my friends. It seems as if those people weren't home and they didn't find me. CHAIRPERSON: We are nearly an hour late and apart from the inconvenience that it is causing to the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, to the legal people who are present, it also involves financial considerations. Money is wasted by delays such as this and I will see that steps are taken on ... MS MKHIZE: Thank you very much. By coming to the Truth Commission, what were your expectations, because a lot of people are coming and we know we must do something. But even the people are also coming with their own expectations, they need some help. MS YOYO: Then Card said to me, all what you are saying is not acceptable to me. I don't hear it, because I have got a lot of information about you that you go up and down the streets of East London organising people that they should be against the White rule. The ANC people called the medical doctors and my son was buried on the 13th at Stadium of Mahureleng, that's how it happened. "I have indicated that it was Mr Morgan Phehlane, Susan Phehlane, Edward Phehlane, Rabana Mudsi ... and a certain Mr Buda ... were the people who were supposed to be removed." MR MNGUNI: The people were killing us in such a way that it was possible for us to engage in fighting and killing them ultimately in the event of us coming across them. MR ROSSOUW: And you did not see the people who were involved in there as well? Applicant saw the deceased leaving his home, disarmed and assaulted him. Soon more people caught up with the deceased and continued the assault, eventually pouring petrol over the deceased and setting him alight. The deceased died in the incident . MR DLAMINI: It was myself, comrade Themba, Jacky Macheo and Bafana Baloi. In 1990 we attacked Mr Msizi's house, we threw petrol bombs. We did so because Msizi was one of the councillors who used to harass and give hardships to the community. It includes arresting people and evicting people from ... MR NHLAPHO: I do not know the people I shot at, I just knew that I was shooting at members of the IFP. Their specific names are not known to me. MS MKHIZE: Now that you are here at the Commission you also said Andrew had a child and you will appreciate if you could get some aid or help. What else would you require the Commission to help you with regarding the grandchild? You also stated that you would like us to help find your son. Is ... MR SANDI: At the time you made your appearance in court, were you the only one or were there other people with you? MR MATHEBE: As people who were fighting for liberation, we knew what we were fighting for. We were not expecting any reward, our only reward was liberation. On 15 March, I was a member of those people who were taking the memorandum. He read the memorandum, he explained to us that 20 minutes we should disperse. When we were supposed to disperse, they gave an order that the police should shoot us. It was terrible. Your testimony concerns an experience that you had in July 1985 which is also indicative of the situation at that time and the way in which people were treated by the security forces, particularly the police. Now would you like to tell us what happened to you in July 1985. to them I could not because I have been affected by the sugar diabetes disease. They said that is no problem as the people in exile will be coming back to the country. They are going to help. |
