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people's warExplanation Showing 821 to 840 of 1000 First Page•Previous Page 38 •39 •40 •41 •42 •43 •44 •45 •46 Next Page•Last PageNo plan, no envisaged plan, no joint venture of that nature was ever discussed with me at all. // I’m not aware of any case where the Defence Force and the police would have acted together internally and where people had been killed and had not been discussed with me. // I in my more than 35 ... I was born in District Six. I was born in a little maternity hospital which is near Constitution Street, right in the centre of District Six. My father and my grandparents and so on all grew up in District Six. In fact my grandmother was one of the first people to be removed from District Six and ... In 1982 Hunter was assigned to switchboard duty in the Zanza building in Pretoria. // I did the job very well, I found it very interesting in that there were all sorts of strange messages which people were leaving that I was asked to pass on to other people and it was fairly clear to me therefore ... There’s one thing that I will have to live with till the day I day, it’s the corpses that I will have to drag with me to my grave, of the people whom I’ve killed. Remorse, I can assure you a lot, a hell of a lot. The drama that led to the death of Stompie Seipei started in late 1988 with the accusation that Methodist minister Paul Verryn was sexually abusing four young people who were running from the police. Katiza Cebekhulu said Madikizela-Mandela told him to claim that Verryn had raped him. The worst part of it is that one couldn’t get out of it, you will just disappear like Ace Moema, we don’t know where he is. Many other people that were in Vlakplaas, they just disappeared. Even if you asked … if you posed a threat to the security, you’re gone. I wake up at night then small fat men with bald heads chase me. They chase me and pin me down. When I call for help no voice comes out. There was a time people said I was mad because they regarded those of us who came from the border as mad. Yasmin Sooka … hey, I am chairing here … // Then if we take what you say further all the politicians should have applied for amnesty in these cases where killings were a result or gross human rights violations were a result of these kinds of actions? // I listened to what my former colleague, ... Was there any question that those to be killed were ANC members? // No, he only referred to Goniwe and similar cases. // He didn’t mention that these people were recruited by the ANC? // No, no there was nothing like that. It’s been incredible. There are two impressions, one, how could we ever be so ghastly, the depth of depravity takes your breath away. That’s the one side. The other side is almost exhilarating, that people who have suffered as much as these should have this capacity to forgive, this magnanimity ... During the marathon three year court case which more than 3000 people brought against the police they denied complicity with the witdoeke and eventually no one was found guilty for the deaths and destruction. But this week the Truth Commission heard this man, Ulrich Schellhase admit the links. ... ... I was arrested at the airport in Cape Town and was held overnight in a dark, filthy cell in Roeland street prison. The next day I was taken to Swartskop Aerodrome in Pretoria in a light military aircraft. I was driven to Pretoria Central Prison and stripped naked and searched. // I was ... Did you lie to your attorney? // I did Mr. Chairman. // Nobody compelled you to lie to your attorney? // No one compelled me Mr. Chairman except for the fact that I was busy with an armed struggle and I was determined to give as much opposition as possible under any circumstances. // What support ... The CCB was nothing but a murderous, ill organized unit that killed and maimed innocent people. According to me more people could have been killed that night if it wasn’t to the quick reaction of the people. The white guys basically, well all of them who’s got military training, so when you pick up a shot or when you hear shots going off you know automatically what to do. We actually are talking about creating something that never was in this country. // Conciliation as far as I’m concerned will mean that you have to take away the anger and the animosity in people and make them understand the need to stay and work together. merciless, because your people are dying and you cannot resist it, it’s very much in the deed. You see, so I can say I was born militant. So, afterwards I realised that OK as far as humanity is concerned it doesn’t call for, but that was the only ... In fact by then the situation was very, very tense so that I thought that to stab her was the only way to get what she’s got, like that list of our names. If I couldn’t do that maybe those people who were named could have been also killed. So, I was trying to save the community on what she was ... 38 men and women died that night. Mandla Nangalembe insists the police were involved in the massacre, but his allegations have never been thoroughly been investigated and no one has been convicted for the slaughter. I see in your manifesto, and I quote you what you just said: the National Party does not kill people, the National Party does not threaten people and again I’m sure the relatives of Steve Biko and Dulcie September and David Webster and Anton Lubowski would want me to ask you, when did you change ... |
