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people's warExplanation Showing 881 to 900 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 41 •42 •43 •44 •45 •46 •47 •48 •49 Next Page•Last PageMS BLAAUW: I don't know those people. MR MBANDAZAYO: Chairperson, on the basis that the applicant at the time of the incident, he was not aware that there were people injured and that property was damaged as a result of what happened on the day in question. All the applications comply with the requirements of the Act; the Applicants have made full disclosure of all the material facts relevant to their actions and the acts for which amnesty is sought are acts associated with a political objective. What the Applicants aimed at by preventing screening ... ... their shotguns. The group fled and applicant and Geldenhuys were unable to effect any arrests. At a later stage during the evening they became aware of a motor vehicle which transported what appeared to be an injured person from the township. Because they were in fear of their lives, ... MR MXUTU: Col Duli said that as we knew that Ms Stella Sigcau's government was overthrown by the soldiers and these soldiers said after six months it would change and then he said that that six months had elapsed, so he wanted us to do what had happened to the previous government. He wanted us to ... MR LE ROUX: Basically we went to the scene immediately and then the media liaison officer arranged that among others Chris Olckers from the SABC, people from the press and other members of publicity teams would be there. CHAIRPERSON: This has not been a hearing where there's been a great deal of conflicting evidence where one has to weigh up the evidence. There have been differences between various people as to who was at what meeting, who did precisely what but the picture of what happened is reasonably clear, ... At the time in question the police were regarded by both the Mamelodi Committee and MK as being enemies of the people. Members of the SAP had been harassing and victimising members of the Mamelodi community and various attacks were planned and carried out by MK against members of the SAP as ... The first applicant testified that he had been trained as an MK Soldier, both inside and outside South Africa and that at the time of the incidents under discussion he was the Commander of the second applicant and other members of an ANC cell which had been created in the Newcastle area. First ... MR SIBEKO: It is possible that there were people inside the shack? CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR DU PLESSIS: May I proceed Mr Chairman, thank you. Mr Goosen, the information that you had with regard to Morudi and the people that would have been in the house that night, do you agree with Mr Momberg's evidence as far as that is concerned, the question that I asked him? On the 10th October the Tembisa Police Station Barracks was similarly bombed. Three people sustained injuries. CHAIRPERSON: ...(inaudible). There are other matters involved in Mr Thusi's application, which do not involve the present parties and which I have not commented on, but I would urge that the papers are gone through carefully and if there are any other persons who should be notified or informed of ... MR VABAZA: The third applicant, Mr Chairperson and members, is Mabitana Mani. He is also amongst the five group of people. CHAIRPERSON: Ms Patel, can we again implore your Department to ensure that when matters are set down, they have been fully investigated and very ripe for a hearing in order to avoid matters being postponed only when we are here in a venue and at great costs I think to the people who are attending ... MR SHANE: Was your name also mentioned amongst the people who went to rob firearms at the Kliprivier police station? PINETOWN
TOM JABULANI MADLALA
AM7198/97
MURDER OF 16 IFP PEOPLE
MR KOPEDI: If I may, Honourable Chairperson, I'm going to ask for a postponement of this matter sine die. The reasons are that all the applicants are not here as we speak and also the victim, there is one victim in this matter, the victim is not here and basically we did not have any application ... All right. You were shot coming from a rally and there were many people there. Were you ever charged for anything that happened on that day? Shall I repeat the question. You were shot by the police when you were coming from Steve Tshwete's rally. Did the police ever come to you and charge you ... The Leader of Evidence informed us that most of the people injured in the incidents forming the subject matter of the hearing had been traced and had been notified of the hearing. These people have indicated that they did not wish to attend these proceedings and none did so. |
