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people's warExplanation Showing 941 to 960 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 43 •44 •45 •46 •47 •48 •49 •50 •51 Next Page•Last PageCHAIRPERSON: Good morning everybody. Today we are going to hear the applications for amnesty of the following people, T Mutle, P Mfusa, N F Ranoto, Nkuna and S P Blose. I must stress that we are not making a finding that all the latter three people are entitled to have their amnesty applications heard. What we are doing is endeavouring to make arrangements or to ensure that arrangements are made that at the adjourned hearing, the Committee which hears the ... CHAIRPERSON: Yes, I wanted to make everybody aware who is here, our life-span is really limited and it is our view and the considered view that we cannot allow postponements. Like we are here, we've got to finish everything here in Bloemfontein. We won't come back and should there be a matter ... MR GREYLING: During the arrest of Siphiwe Nyanda I was present. There were not enough people in the office and they were looking for persons to assist with the arrest. MR SIBANYONI: The problem we are saddled with, Mr Kruger, is that the Act envisages that people will be acting in authority of publicly known organisations or parties etcetera, now having a letter from the CP, which to an extent indicates that they never advocated a policy of, I would say, carrying ... really was the bigger picture. Now you give evidence about the Mbokoto people taking you away on your own, torturing you, giving you a tough time, beating you up. You were a leader, you were chairman of the UDF branch there at Kwagga. We had a number of other witnesses today who talked about the ... MR SIMANGA: Insp Mfene showed the dissatisfaction of the government, of the way the government was treating us as the police in the former Ciskei and the working conditions and the things that were happening such as killing of people. It was put to applicant that evidence had been led that by 1993 levels of violence at Ermelo had significantly dwindled and that there was no more fighting there. He explained that although violence had generally subsided, in his area which he referred to as the extension where Black Cats were ... The applicant testified that the incidents he is applying for occurred between the 23rd June 1991 to 26th June 1991. The people he attacked were people whom he believed were enemies who were going to attack them. This belief was fortified becauese they were in a "no-go" area as declared by the ... At the time in question political violence was rife in the Mpumalanga area. The violence, which involved supporters of the IFP on the one side and supporters of the ANC on the other, was on-going and resulted in many people being killed and injured and much property being destroyed. "We were youths who were calling themselves comrades although we were not affiliated to any political party. Our main aim was to discipline people who were committing crimes". CHAIRPERSON: Mr Hattingh, I am now told that Mr Greyling has had an opportunity to speak to you, amongst the people that he refers to by other legal representatives, what is your attitude with regard to having the matter postponed again to another date? The Applicants testified that they were members of the security department of the ANC at the time and were asked to investigate complaints by the community in Dambuza. This involved complaints about intimidation by a gang led by the deceased. There were allegations that this gang acted in support ... The salient features of the undisputed versions of Applicants are as follows. They were resident in Cradock and were members of the Cradock Youth Association ("Cradoya") at the time of the incident. Their political affiliation is confirmed in letters addressed to the Committee by the Cradock ... MR DU PREEZ SMIT: Well we did find out that there was a vehicle that exploded there, that people were killed. I do not know how many and I do not know how many were injured, and that the hospital itself was damaged by this explosion. CHAIRPERSON: The other people who gave evidence, referred to the Jubilee Hotel, saying that they were called there, were you also called? Ras informed them that Brigadier Stemmet had told him that he had information that a policeman in Hammanskraal was an ANC agent and that he was to be eliminated as he visited and was relaying information to the ANC in Zimbabwe that had in the past already led to the killing of some people there. ... MR KOOPEDI: The only sad part Chair is that Judge Motata's comments were not recorded as his mike was off and I believe it is important for us to note that it is indeed the Vanderbijl Square and not Vanderbijlpark which is a town in the Vaal. I would then say, Chairperson, that is the application ... CHAIRPERSON: I think we must bear in mind that we're talking of something nine years ago and for people to remember precisely who was in what car at what stage of the journey, is ... Right, questions? On the night of the incident he and his comrades one "Wizz" Rantla and Mosa Nkuta were on a reconnaissance mission in a stolen vehicle. The police suspected the car to be a stolen vehicle and tried to stop them. They drove off and managed to get away and got out of the car at White City. The ... |
