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people's warExplanation Showing 181 to 200 of 1003 First Page•Previous Page 6 •7 •8 •9 •10 •11 •12 •13 •14 Next Page•Last PageMR CORNELIUS: Before the operation you gathered at Honeydew, there were various members of the Security Branch, you cannot recall the specific names of these people? MS MAYA: In the statement before us on which your evidence today will be based we find that you are going to speak about Phumzile Gladwell Plaatjies, who was also part of the crowd of the people who was killed on 21 March 1985. I would like you to please tell us when did you hear that Phumzile was ... MR WILLIAMS: Now Mr Mbelo, I want to ask you, before you filled in your application for amnesty did you discuss this particular incident with any of the people that were involved in this incident? CHAIRPERSON: Listen to my question. Under way to the house, what did you think was going to happen once the bomb had been placed? People would definitely have died? MR HATTINGH: Yes and after his departure there were still some of the Witbank people in the vehicle who were busy with the deceased. MR ANDREWS: Okay. I was held alone at Brighton Beach Police Station, in single cells and not being able to communicate with other people and this constantly playing on my mind. That's exactly the circumstances under which I agreed to lead evidence for the State. MR MUDAU: It was by the time when the deceased was starting to fight with the people. MRS GQINEBE: On the 19th of March 1990 the Comrades were giving people some stands, vacant stands and as they were soldiering that, I do not know what happened later on, but the police came and the police started shooting and people MR RADEBE: All of them belonged to the community. When the community was purchasing them, each and every street would have volunteers. Like myself, I was a volunteer and I committed myself to the SDU and these arms were taken and allocated to streets and some people were appointed, people ... MR MOGANEDI: I will start by what happened to me in Mutatema when I was injured. We left Jane Furse going to Mutatema to a funeral. We also wanted to go and look for a combi which was stolen. When we arrived in Tafelkop where our comrades were killed we found the combi and it was driven by those ... like that happened, people used to question many questions and get answers for themselves. MR NDIOKO: The people were singing freedom songs. There were officers who were at the stage and the other members and they were singing, they were in that mood. ADV DE JAGER: Ja, perhaps if he could listen before he starts giving evidence. I don't know whether it's been explained to him, if he didn't commit any offence and if he wouldn't admit that he associated himself with the commission of an offence, he can't get amnesty because we can only give ... MR NEL: Now if we may move on to paragraph 10. Immediately you say there that originally you were under the impression that four people were killed, but having heard the evidence and having read the other applications, you realised that only three members, or three people were in fact killed in ... MR DU PLESSIS: And it was not strange for you to receive instructions from the people from the Natal Security Branch? Just behind my house I heard people making a noise, saying that there were policemen. I went out to look, then I saw my own child, I went there. We were there in the bedroom, we couldn’t see what was happening because we’re in the bedroom. And we were there for a time until it was late, it was after sunset when we went out. And we couldn’t see my sister - we were the only people in the house. In the passage we saw some fire, then the ... took a hosepipe and they poured water. Then in that foam they put us in that foam and they came with shamboks. We were beaten. Yes, they really assaulted us. Yes, they assaulted us. Skosane tried to speak. They said this old man what does he want here? Then Makawe, they said this little ... MR MAJOVA: No, in Thlabani they had none, we went there together. When we were getting there for the second time, when I went there, we went to the Shell House people where they also gathered information. Hechter testified that during the relevant time he was based in Pretoria where he worked under the command of Cronje. He was in charge of a team of operatives who occasionally went out at night to attack people whom they saw as enemies of the previous government. It was their task to defend ... |
