self-defence units (SDUs)

MR MASERUMULE: Yes we were a unit of 17, we were given a mission to go and clear a route from Swaziland into Tonga. There was a military base of anti-insurgents units in Tonga. According to information we were given, when the unit was being grouped.

MR ROSSOUW: Mr Mogoai, you've also testified before the Amnesty Committee in other applications where you were part of units of Vlakplaas, that assault was used as a method of gaining information and that you partook in these assaults, is that correct?

one of those who participated in the concept of operation butterfly, that he discussed it with other leaders and that they then gave instructions to units who were to go back into the country, into Natal and set up organisations to carry out all the aims of Operation Butterfly, all the objects ...

... and he was also very active inside South Africa around the Soweto area which made our work quite difficult in a sense that around that time many units which were operating in the country were either arrested or they were actually drawn into a situation whereby there could be crossfire with the ...

MR KHOTLE: They were members of the PAC until they were transferred to the task force. It was one of the units that advocated the struggle of the Africans against oppression that we lived under from these people that are referred to as Whites. In that way being members of the PAC also being a ...

units and people's courts.

CHAIRPERSON: Would that be the jobs of the task force or of the cadres in other units of PAC, like marshals or so on?

MR LAX: Did you report the matter to higher IFP authorities to say: "Here is an IFP man in our area, armed with G3's intended for Self Protection Units. He's running amok in the area. Please come and do something about it." Did you say anything to your fellow IFP comrades to do that?

MR FOURIE: That was his choice, because many times he saw informers from Swaziland and then he would inform the border units that he was going to be seeing someone that night and that if they saw a vehicle going past, that they shouldn't be worried because it was him because he was going to ...

"We should aim to create ANC units both within the established Churches and independent Churches and other religious bodies".

of the AWB were. Then the Special Forces - then there were special members amongst these wen kommando members who would then be taken up in special units, amongst others also the Ystergarde ...

MR BERGER: Now after the bomb was planted and exploded at Silverton, were you aware of the decision to report the fact that your units had planted that bomb, to report that to the leadership in Botswana?

MR ROSSOUW: but the point that I want to know from you is the person who went to Vlakplaas were persons who could be trusted, who were chosen specifically because they could protect the identity of the clandestine units at Vlakplaas, they had to live up to that expectation.

... the fertility/infertility. The first thing that I want to understand is, how does this fall - we've heard so much about the establishment of these units and why they were established, I just want you to explain to us how that fell because as I understood from Doctor van Rensburg yesterday, ...

... of that building by damaging the building. The intention, they testified, was not to endanger lives. In fact, strict instructions were given to units that executed the plan that no person was to be seriously injured or killed in the ...

MR LAX: Were those people part of your unit or were they part of other units?

... as I understand it, he’s told us they didn’t arrest people, they passed any information they had onto the special unit or to other investigative units. They didn’t do that, they didn’t investigate the case and they didn’t carry the docket which would mean as I understand it, they didn’t ...

... and forgive me. I know that it's very difficult for the government to say yes to that because that is not the process in what was happening in our ...

... - luckily I'm talking to the some of the Members of the Committee who have been involved in some APLA cadre application regarding Repossession Units. Some PAC leadership, it's only the top one, National Executive, some of them, only knew about that the UNITRA robbery was an APLA - it's only ...

No, not at all. Often we were called in with the Security Police and other units.