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VlakplaasExplanation Showing 621 to 640 of 646 First Page•Previous Page 25 •26 •27 •28 •29 •30 •31 •32 •33 Next Page•Last Page Mr Koole, before - could you just explain, were you part of a group of Vlakplaas who was in the area of the previous Eastern Transvaal prior to the abduction of Mngomezulu? MR VAN ZYL: The people involved in the actual killing were from Port Elizabeth. The abduction which was part of the operation, there was some assistance from the Vlakplaas Unit. MR DU PLESSIS: To explain this to the Committee and to make it clear to them with regards to evidence that was given earlier on, C1 was Vlakplaas and it later became C10, is that correct? concept of criteria, the liability of putting in to place things like Vlakplaas, EXAMINATION BY MR JANSEN: Mr Ras, you were involved in the Cosatu House incident and your role was to drive the kombi to Johannesburg and back, in which some of the Vlakplaas operatives and some of the explosives experts people were, is that correct? ... His involvement in the fourth incident, the attack on a house in Waterkloof resulted from the fact that he "happened" (toevallig was) to be at Vlakplaas when he was requested by a colleague, Martiens Ras, to drive his car (Ras's car) and accompany him to the house where several shots ... he's going to participate. Every person that's turned into an askari and I know of instances where people were turned into askaris without going to Vlakplaas, but with respect, the information which Prinsloo followed up which was valuable and he continued interrogation in order to ensure that he ... MR MEYER: I recall that we went to Vlakplaas, where we obtained the arms. It was quite late that afternoon and after we had received the arms, we went through to Krugersdorp where we found the then Captain Coetzee. CHAIRPERSON: I'm having difficulty with what you're trying to get at, Mr Stofile. You're questioning him, you're saying "why didn't you join Vlakplaas or the askaris?" Now he says "I didn't join them because I didn't want to kill people". Now you say "okay, I've got a problem with that, you ... about half past nine. We were taken to a certain mountain. It is not far from Pukeng, but it is a hidden area. It was the same as the building at Vlakplaas. That is where we were tortured. There is certain Captain called du Preez. That is the one who was operating the electrical wires on us. ... The first applicant testified that he was approached by Sergeant Andrejovic, a former Vlakplaas operative, who was stationed in Springs at the time of the incident. Andrejovic requested him to assist in getting rid of a body of a member of the Inkatha Freedom Party (IFP) whose name was unknown to ... MR VISSER: Yes that's the case, Chairperson. If I may just mention that there other applicants from the Transvaal because Vlakplaas was present at the time and there are a whole bunch of, I'm not sure how many, of other applicants in that matter as well so it is already a longish matter. ... steps and to issue the necessary orders to carry out the operation. Schoon instructed de Kock, the commander of C-Unit of the Security Police at Vlakplaas to take the necessary steps to carry out the intended explosion. The operation had to be carried out in Johannesburg and de Kock had ... CHAIRPERSON: Can I interrupt you for a moment. Was this a Vlakplaas vehicle? it briefly. May I just ask you beforehand, on previous occasions you have conceded that your memory with regard to the events of the past, there at Vlakplaas, is somewhat vague, is that ... MR GOOSEN: From Security Headquarters, where he was a commanding officer of Vlakplaas. We are now dealing with applications pertaining to the so-called Parker Pen Set Bomb Incident. All the Applicants herein were members of the Vlakplaas Unit, a component of the South African Security Police ("SAPS"). They all worked under de Kock who was their operational commander. They are ... Thank you. Let me just ask you one final question. Have you heard of a place or a case called Vlakplaas? --- I don't know what is that. ... of different sections of the army, covert operations, names that have emerged like Battalion 32 involved in some of the train violence, some Vlakplaas operatives, military people, and we're hoping that soon a clear picture will emerge of what was actually happening and that with more and ... Approximately seven years after that - well, in the meantime I'd been transferred to Pretoria Security Branch and I met the informer at Vlakplaas for the first time and I asked him what had happened during that incident and he explained to me what took place, or what had taken place." |