Vlakplaas

... you were then ultimately released from detention and in 33 through to 38, you then deal with your involvement with de Kock and his colleagues at Vlakplaas and you describe in broad terms the type of training, the type of operations and in general terms the manner in which you were utilised as ...

MR SNYMAN: At that stage I was stationed at Vlakplaas, Chairperson.

Were you aware of the involvement of colleagues from Vlakplaas in the Western Cape during the ‘80’s?

... even more revealing was the fact that when Mr de Kock was asked about the strong personalities and the endurance abilities of koevoet members and Vlakplaas members, that he said Willie Nortje for instance, whom he regarded as one of the toughest operators, when he was put in a situation where ...

MR ROSSOUW: In other words, you were a part of a team of C1, Vlakplaas members which was working in Mafikeng and Mr de Kock was still in Pretoria?

MR LAMEY: Mr Mamasela, you are on record saying that: "At Vlakplaas, under the command of Dirk Coetzee and de Kock it was hell"

in the tracing of Odirile Maponya.  The 1st Applicant agreed and sent a telex to head office requesting the assistance of Unit C1, also known as ...

MR VISSER: That would be Vlakplaas?

MR JANSEN: Is it also correct that although Vlakplaas existed for quite some time, and the askaris were settled there, Vlakplaas became an Operational Unit or the beginning of that process was at the end of 1980, is that correct?

MR LAMEY: Is it correct that you were one of the earlier members of Vlakplaas?

MR PRINSLOO: That says a lot Chairperson, yes. And then by nature of the circumstances, one would not handle an askari on a Branch or departmental level, for that purpose the unit known as Vlakplaas was established according to my perception because they dealt exclusively with askaris.

ADV BOOYENS: Mr Roelf Venter and Askaris, it's a Vlakplaas component which operated here in the Eastern Cape at that stage.

MR LAMEY: And you yourself only arrived later at Vlakplaas, is that correct? - after the Mxenge murder.

MR CORNELIUS: And after that you returned to Vlakplaas?

MR CORNELIUS: At times of this incident you were a sergeant in the service of the South African Police at Vlakplaas under the command of Eugene de Kock?

MR BOOYENS: And at that stage you were stationed at Vlakplaas.

MR VAN DEN BERG: Can we look at Exhibit C, that would be the statement that you compiled regarding the activities of Vlakplaas. Do you have it before you, Mr de Kock?

CHAIRMAN: Gentlemen, I have prepared some notes that I had made with regard to our visit to Vlakplaas on Tuesday. I'm just getting a reminder of one of the figures that I have forgotten. I thought I would read it out and then invite you, if you had any comments to make, to make them and I include ...

... them in East London. They fetched some of the weapons from the stock pile that was in their offices. Other weapons were secured from different Vlakplaas members who were keeping them. There were also those that came from the Police College. All these were weapons which originally came from ...

MR LAMEY: At that stage you were a member of the Security Police unit, C1, stationed at Vlakplaas.