Vlakplaas

CHAIRPERSON: I'm having difficulty with what you're trying to get at, Mr Stofile. You're questioning him, you're saying "why didn't you join Vlakplaas or the askaris?" Now he says "I didn't join them because I didn't want to kill people". Now you say "okay, I've got a problem with that, you ...

he's going to participate. Every person that's turned into an askari and I know of instances where people were turned into askaris without going to Vlakplaas, but with respect, the information which Prinsloo followed up which was valuable and he continued interrogation in order to ensure that he ...

MR BERGER: That's the Brig Schoon who was in charge of Vlakplaas?

... we never heard anything except now that the inquest has started I heard that there were certain queries that it could possibly be members of the Vlakplaas. They say it is possible that it's them, but there is no surety. I saw it in the newspaper last ...

... say to me directly or indirectly,: "Look for a place where we can place 40 kilograms of plastic explosive", or whatever, that was the job of the Vlakplaas people. Each in these operations, once again for the need-to-know principle, what you didn't have to know was never told to you, if there ...

The incident occurred while a team of Vlakplaas members was assisting the Nelspruit Security Branch.  The team were led by Captain Baker and consisted further of Lieutenant Van Dyk, Sergeant Nofemela and Constable Nicholas Dube.

EXAMINATION BY MR JANSEN: Mr Ras, you were involved in the Cosatu House incident and your role was to drive the kombi to Johannesburg and back, in which some of the Vlakplaas operatives and some of the explosives experts people were, is that correct?

... at the time had already embarked on a program which was to turn some of our people into what we now refer to as Askaris and at the time, I think Vlakplaas was, I think at it's ...(indistinct) stages. I may not have personally have been fully conversant with the finer details of the entire ...

MR DE KOCK: Chairperson, it was with regard to mitigation and this was to explain the nature of Vlakplaas' activities to the Court.

MR DU PLESSIS: To explain this to the Committee and to make it clear to them with regards to evidence that was given earlier on, C1 was Vlakplaas and it later became C10, is that correct?

MR VAN ZYL: The people involved in the actual killing were from Port Elizabeth. The abduction which was part of the operation, there was some assistance from the Vlakplaas Unit.

MR LAMEY: Before you went to C2, you yourself were also a member of Vlakplaas.

Approximately seven years after that - well, in the meantime I'd been transferred to Pretoria Security Branch and I met the informer at Vlakplaas for the first time and I asked him what had happened during that incident and he explained to me what took place, or what had taken place."

MR VISSER: Yes that's the case, Chairperson. If I may just mention that there other applicants from the Transvaal because Vlakplaas was present at the time and there are a whole bunch of, I'm not sure how many, of other applicants in that matter as well so it is already a longish matter.

CHAIRPERSON: Can I interrupt you for a moment. Was this a Vlakplaas vehicle?

MR S HUGO:: Then he says that you contacted him at Vlakplaas. You wanted to know if he had contact with the Ballistic Unit of the South African Police, seeing as he had some problems, did you say that to him?

MR PIENAAR: After his detention in Piet Retief he was taken away by head office. I don't know where else he was detained, but he later ended up at Vlakplaas, where he worked in C1, under Col de Kock.

MR CORNELIUS: You were also a member of Vlakplaas, as prescribed, and you had the rank of Constable, is that correct?

... with them were referred to as Ovambos, that is persons from outside the country who had been members of Koevoet and who were now stationed at Vlakplaas.  The planned operation went awry and in consequence the two "Ovambos" engaged in a fire fight with the gun runners to defend ...

... who was stationed at the Head Office in Pretoria at the relevant time. De Kock was the Commander of Section C1 of the Security Police situated at Vlakplaas near Pretoria. Van Rensburg was his immediate Commander. Snyman, Vermeulen and Ras were members of Section C1 under the command of de ...