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Special Report
Transcripts for Section 4 of Episode 34

09:10During the early nineties a war between the ANC and IFP spread through townships like Tokoza, Kathlehong and Vosloorus. The East Rand became synonymous with death. This week the victims relive the chaos and violence of that time.Full Transcript and References
09:27… It was a usual occurrence for me to wake up every morning and go to the mortuary in search of my husband. We went to different places. We even went to Diepkloof. We kept on going up and down looking for my husband and a month lapsed without us getting my husband back or the body. Up till today I don’t know what has happened to my husband.Full Transcript and References
10:00When I got into the house I put the light on trying to see as to which part of me was bleeding. I switched on the light, and I kept on switching the light on and off without seeing anything. That’s when I realized that I had turned blind.Full Transcript and References
10:25My mom was approached by some people, some Zulu’s and they were telling her that your child who is a comrade has been shot and he’s going to die. And already he has died.Full Transcript and References
10:47I was chopped and my hand was cut and I had no arm after that. The doctor asked me where was the other piece of my arm. I told him I don’t know.Full Transcript and References
11:15That’s when I discovered that my husband had died because my father in law came also and sat right next to me. He said to me. We’ve been defeated by life. They saw his shoe and they could not recognize him because he was burnt. The only thing that they could recognize was his shoes. When they were trying to take off his shoes they could tell from his feet that he is the one they were looking for.Full Transcript and References
12:02We were scared for our lives since we were Zulu speaking… They destroyed the house completely, every single possession we had was destroyed.Full Transcript and References
12:23Then I could say that it was not just a conflict, it was a war situation and it was quite a big war I could say.Full Transcript and References
12:38It was a bloody, bloody war. Thousands were killed and many thousands more fled their homes. Allegations of who was responsible were flung to and fro. Today the ANC and the IFP still blame each other for the carnage that ripped their communities apart. // ‘We heard that they are coming to our hostel. // Where are you going now? // We want to meet them. // What are you going to do when you meet them? // You know, you know. // We are here to kill Inkatha.’Full Transcript
13:13Tokoza has seen some of the worst bloodshed between the ANC and the IFP. One of its victims was the young civic leader, Sam Ntuli. He was shot down in 1991 in Khumalo street, Tokoza’s notorious alley of death. His killers have never been caught. // Those who have killed my brother we suspect that they are some of the members of the IFP, senior members of the IFP.Full Transcript and References
13:42In the months before Sam Ntuli’s assassination the violence in Tokoza had died down. On the day of his funeral all hell broke loose again. // Because those people from … immediately when we passed the hostel they said when you come back we are going to kill all of you. We are going to kill all of you and no one is going to survive. Immediately after that that, that is exactly what took place. They killed 21 people and some of them got injured.Full Transcript and References
14:20Nobody remained untouched by the conflict. Many IFP members too were carried away in body bags. In a breakthrough for the Truth Commission this week IFP members also told how the violence touched them.Full Transcript
14:36That is when some of the hostel dwellers gathered themselves and went out but they were killed in a taxi. About 15 of them were killed at a certain open ground in Palm Ridge. They were taken out of the taxi and they were killed. // There was a cousin who lived with us by the name of Mosanduli. They went to fetch him at work and they killed him as well because he was Zulu speaking.Full Transcript
15:18Allegations of security force involvement in the East Rand violence have never gone away. A third force and Vlakplaas operatives were alleged to be fanning the fires of war, but the most often heard allegation was that the police gave Inkatha guns and protection. In this ANC video police drop off men wearing the trade mark red of the IFP impi’s at the time. But the IFP denies the police helped them. // We did not have anybody who was on our side because the police as well as the soldiers were against us together with the residents.Full Transcript and References
15:59Today the reasons for the conflict between the IFP and ANC still depend on who you ask. The war may be over on the East Rand but the past has left its mark. // One cannot say there’s peace you know, because most of the SDU members and even although they’ve handed their guns to the police, but some of the IFP members are still having those guns. They are still having those AK47s. So it’s difficult to say, now there’s peace, but there’s relative calm now.Full Transcript
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