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Transcripts for Section 6 of Episode 5
|20:21||Well, the first amnesty applications were heard at Phokeng this week. It is just one of the many side chapters in the history of the former government’s disastrous homeland policies. // Mathebe mountain pass, a pile of stones, this is how the Bafokeng remind themselves of victory in battle over the Bahurutshe in the late 1700s. Yet conflict between the Bafokeng and the leading Bahurutshe member continued well into present day politics. // Lucas Mangope from the Bahurutshe line was installed as president of Bophuthatswana in 1977. Leader of the Bafokeng, the late chief Labone Molotlegi, strongly opposed the Bantustan system. The Bafokeng insisted on tribal independence and on their seat of power, Phokeng to remain a part of South Africa. Mangope was equally insistent that it would never happen. The Bafokeng are a rich tribe, 80 percent of the world’s platinum is mined on their land. Yet, Mangope was given control over their land and rights. // It was the first time to experience ...more||Full Transcript and References|
|21:20||Mafokeng resistance led to the arrest and eventual exile of the sickly chief Molotlegi. He fled to Botswana in 1988. This finally split the Bafokeng tribe. // After the chief left for Botswana Mister Mokgatle became the leader. And during his leadership there was a split in the tribe, in the council. He wanted us to agree with him and the king’s brother is the real chief and has to rule us. And we were in opposition with his idea and there was a split among the council. And something terrible happened. We wanted to hear what was happening, what was taking place in the council. The ones who were honest to the king were expelled from their councils.||Full Transcript|
|22:23||Boy Diale and Christopher Makgale are Bafokeng. In 1990 they killed the man they saw as a Bophuthatswana puppet: 83 year old Glad Mokgatle. Diale is serving a 12 year jail sentence and Makgale 15 years for the murder. They want to be released from prison and have asked for amnesty. Their amnesty hearing took place at the Bafokeng civic centre, the symbol of Bafokeng power and pride and it is the battle for keys to this building that led to the murder of Glad Mokgatle. // We said to ourselves, we are going to search for the keys. The keys to our offices. Those keys do not belong to the Bophuthatswana government; they belong to the Bafokeng tribe. We decided to kidnap Mister Glad Mokgatle. The decision was to keep him at a place where he would not be seen by anyone, and we’d interrogate him to ask him questions about the keys. // On our arrival we knocked and we found that … had a girl friend, and then we asked her ‘where is Mister Glad Mokgatle?’ // They said they wanted ...more||Full Transcript|
|26:55||There can be no doubt, whatsoever that this murder was a grave crime and that it was a brutal crime. We won’t persuade you otherwise. // Brian Currin, the lawyer for Diale and Makgale argued that despite the gravity of their act they met the Commission’s requirements for amnesty. // Their political objective, their associated political objective was not only to get keys, and we heard that. It was to take back the affairs of the tribe, to take back governance of the tribe, to take back that power of the tribe, of their own people. // The fate of these two men now rests with the Amnesty Committee, but for the Bafokeng their public confession spelled a new start. // That’s why today I come here in front of the Commission and the Bafokeng tribe and the granddaughters of Mister Glad. And I come to please ask forgiveness from them. // I want the deceased’s family to forgive me about what I did. // Really what these people have done is very terrible, but the truth they have told ...more||Full Transcript|
|28:26||Chief Lebone Molotlegi returned to a changed South Africa in 1994. He died a year later, before he could witness the reconciliation of his people. His eldest son, Chief Lebone II now has to unify the Bafokeng. // This is the first amnesty hearing in the whole South Africa and this is the time to show the whole country that we are a responsible nation and that we want to come together as the citizens of this country. We can make history once more and show the world that even if we’ve been so violated, we can come together and be one. ||Full Transcript and References|
|29:08||But the full picture of the Bophuthatswana’s past might never be known. One man central to the drama, Lucas Mangope, was not there. // I have no intention in taking part in the … in any way … in the Commission. I am aware that allegations were made, these were farfetched and in my opinion they were malicious and it is my view, after having being subjected to a […] driven Commission, that it is very, very important that one be considered the right to reply and that professional lawyers should put under […] examinations allegations made. And that way, in my view, is the only way that the truth, such truth as the bible says you’ll set us free, will be established. ||Full Transcript||