Special Report Transcript Episode 58, Section 2, Time 04:33

The type of warder who was in charge of us while we were in jail. I mean, there were people, you heard some of the stories he told about the distorted kind of humour which they had and how easy it was for them to resort to brutalities. Now these are human beings, these are people like you and me; how did it come about that people should behave in the way in which these people behaved? How did that happen?

Notes: Henry Makgothi (Former political prisoner)