Special Report Transcript Episode 79, Section 4, Time 38:05

By 1986, after 12 years in opposition politics, he quit Parliament. // I decided that there’s no point staying there, that the military seemed to be dominating the country, it was a state of emergency, and started a thing called the Institute for the Democratic Alternative, IDASA. Was there for quite a long time and then into justice in transition, how do you cope with the past, how do you build for the future? And got very interested in the whole question of the Commission and now I’m in the Commission.

Notes: News report, Feb 1986