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Transcripts for Section 5 of Episode 82
| Time | Summary | | | 54:42 | If it’s that simple, that truth will automatically bring reconciliation and the further we go, I’m not so sure anymore. And I know it’s a very harsh thing to say, because after two years I think we’re further apart and not closer to each other, because of the process. | Full Transcript | | 54:56 | It goes to the very heart of making peace with the past, making peace with ourselves and making peace with the fact that both perpetrators and victims played a part in shaping the history. | Full Transcript | | 55:15 | They’ve been opening up all these wounds, taking off, scratching, cutting open, bleeding, bleeding, bleeding… and in the end of the day, who’s going to stitch up again, who’s going to close it down? | Full Transcript | | 55:25 | Many white people have embraced the Truth Commission as a way of coming to terms with the past, but so many more white people in general and Afrikaners in particular have been openly hostile and critical towards the Truth Commission. One only has to read the Rapport on Sundays to realize how deep this resentment lies amongst Afrikaners. Now, many South Africans can probably not understand this resentment, resentment towards a body that not only stretches out a hand to victims but also to perpetrators of whom many are Afrikaners. This resentment is an obvious hurdle to reconciliation and conciliation. Many people say that this hostility is a way of hiding guilt and shame and if this is true, how do we deal with white guilt? | Full Transcript | | 56:18 | We must accept that we now have been forced through this process but we cannot go on forever opening up wounds and not closing them it’s not going to work, we have been through this in the Anglo Boer War. Remember 25 000 of our women and children died. We never had this opportunity, the English just went on. The dilemma is that we must start closing this at some point and that must come from both sides. | Full Transcript | | 56:40 | And the ‘them and us’ philosophy will never work for this country and there has been very, very little reconciliation on the part of white people in this country, they don’t want to sacrifice, they don’t want to atone and they shift the blame, they don’t want to take responsibility for this and they’re not doing themselves a favour. Maybe they’re doing themselves a favour, a selfish favour, but they are not doing a favour to their children. | Full Transcript | | 57:05 | I think that the Afrikaner people should not therefore feel guilty, they should not feel bad, they should begin to take the hand of those that are saying we should reconcile, we should concile. | Full Transcript | | 57:30 | For a person to be guilty of a crime there must be intent and we cannot therefore say citizens who had no intention to set up Vlakplaas and kill people that they should carry the burden of this. We cannot hold responsible ordinary shunters, farmers and so on who supported apartheid because they were made to believe and they were convinced that this is the best way to run affairs. | Full Transcript | | 58:16 | They must choose whether they’re Africans or still Europeans and it takes a lot of courage to make that choice. It takes a lot of courage, because you are saying, I am no longer European and I’m saying that to Indians as well. Those people who continue to call themselves Indians in Africa. If they want to stay in Africa they must stop calling themselves Indians because you only find Indians in India and Chinese in China. | Full Transcript | | 58:38 | We’re part of Africa, we’re committed to Africa. We’ve got no other home. | Full Transcript |
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