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	<startdate>1998-11-23</startdate>
	<location>PRETORIA</location>
	<day>1</day>
	<names>BAFANA ESAU RADEBE</names>
	<case>AM 7191/97</case>
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	<originalhtml>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/amntrans/1998/9811231210_pr_981123th.htm</originalhtml>
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			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Do you now want Mr Bafana Esau Radebe?</text>
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		<line number="2">
			<speaker>MR SIBEKO</speaker>
			<text>Correct so, Mr Chairman.</text>
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		<line number="3">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Are your full names Bafana Esau Radebe?</text>
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		<line number="4">
			<speaker>BAFANA ESAU RADEBE</speaker>
			<text>(sworn states)</text>
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		<line number="5">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Mr Sibeko?</text>
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		<line number="6">
			<speaker>EXAMINATION BY MR SIBEKO</speaker>
			<text>Thank you, Mr Chairman.</text>
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		<line number="7">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>	Now that you are the second Mr Radebe who appears here today, I will refer to you as Mr Bafana Radebe.  Sir, you also apply for amnesty for the role that you played as part of the Committee of Seven which we are talking about here today, is that correct?</text>
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			<speaker>MR RADEBE</speaker>
			<text>That is correct.</text>
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		<line number="9">
			<speaker>MR SIBEKO</speaker>
			<text>Did you hear the testimony of all your colleagues who have already testified?</text>
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		<line number="10">
			<speaker>MR RADEBE</speaker>
			<text>Yes, I did.</text>
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		<line number="11">
			<speaker>MR SIBEKO</speaker>
			<text>Do you agree with everything that they have said inasfar as it relates to you?</text>
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		<line number="12">
			<speaker>MR RADEBE</speaker>
			<text>Yes, I concur with everything they have said.</text>
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		<line number="13">
			<speaker>MR SIBEKO</speaker>
			<text>Do you have anything to add which you think they might have left out?</text>
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		<line number="14">
			<speaker>MR RADEBE</speaker>
			<text>Yes, I would like to add that this conflict started in 1990.  Inkatha was attacking us and we decided to come up with our own illegal means of defending ourselves.  This followed the circumstances and we therefore had to have our own soldiers to protect and defend the community.  That is the truth.</text>
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		<line number="15">
			<speaker>MR SIBEKO</speaker>
			<text>Other than that, do you have any other thing to say?</text>
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		<line number="16">
			<speaker>INTERPRETER</speaker>
			<text>The speaker&#039;s mike is not activated.</text>
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		<line number="17">
			<speaker>MR RADEBE</speaker>
			<text>No.</text>
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		<line number="18">
			<speaker>MR SIBEKO</speaker>
			<text>Thank you, Mr Chairman, no further questions.</text>
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		<line number="19">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>NO FURTHER QUESTIONS BY MR SIBEKO</text>
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		<line number="20">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Thank you.  Advocate Steenkamp?</text>
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		<line number="21">
			<speaker>ADV STEENKAMP</speaker>
			<text>Thank you, Mr Chairman, no questions.</text>
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		<line number="22">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>NO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY ADV STEENKAMP</text>
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		<line number="23">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>I assume you don&#039;t have any re-examination?</text>
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		<line number="24">
			<speaker>MR SIBEKO</speaker>
			<text>None, Mr Chairman.</text>
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		<line number="25">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>NO RE-EXAMINATION BY MR SIBEKO</text>
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		<line number="26">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Thank you.  Mr Bafana Radebe, thank you very much.</text>
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		<line number="27">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>WITNESS EXCUSED</text>
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