amntrans AMNESTY HEARING 1998-11-25 PALM RIDGE 3 THULANI RICHARD MBATHA AM 7027/97(?) https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=53002&t=&tab=hearings https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/amntrans/1998/9811231210_pr_981125th.htm MR MOPEDI The next applicant will be Thulani Richard Mbatha, Mr Chairman. CHAIRPERSON Just identify the next person again please. MR MOPEDI The next person will be Thulani Richard Mbatha, Mr Chairman. ADV STEENKAMP Page 61 of the same bundle, Mr Chairman. CHAIRPERSON Mr Mbatha, won't you stand please and give us your full names. THULANI RICHARD MBATHA (sworn states) CHAIRPERSON Mr Mopedi? EXAMINATION BY MR MOPEDI Thank you, Mr Chairman. Mr Mbatha, you are the applicant in this matter and you are also applying for amnesty, is that correct? MR MBATHA Yes, that's true. MR MOPEDI Were you also a member of the Self Defence Unit in Lusaka-A? MR MBATHA Yes. MR MOPEDI If I may ask you, when did you join? MR MBATHA I would say early 1993. MR MOPEDI You joined early 1993. How old were you in 1993? MR MBATHA If I'm not mistaken I was 12 or 13. MR MOPEDI You were 12 or 13? MR MBATHA I was 12. MR MOPEDI Could you explain with reference to specific incidents what you did as a member of the Self Defence Unit? MR MBATHA My duty as an SDU member was to clean the weapons or the firearms and we would - I was a pathfinder, we would pave a way for my colleagues prior to any attack. And there is no incident that I took part in. MR MOPEDI So in other words if I understand you correctly, you confirm what the last applicant, Simphiwe Godfrey told this forum? MR MBATHA Yes, I concur with what he has said. MR MOPEDI So you have the same duties as Simphiwe Godfrey Ndlovu? MR MBATHA Yes, that's true. MR MOPEDI So you are now applying for amnesty? MR MBATHA Yes. MR MOPEDI Thank you, Mr Chairman, I have no further questions. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS BY MR MOPEDI CHAIRPERSON Thank you, Mr Mopedi. Advocate Steenkamp? ADV STEENKAMP No questions, thank you, Mr Chairman. NO QUESTIONS BY ADV STEENKAMP CHAIRPERSON I suppose no re-examination? MR MOPEDI No re-examination, Mr Chairman, thank you. NO RE-EXAMINATION BY MR MOPEDI WITNESS EXCUSED