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	<type>AMNESTY HEARINGS</type>
	<startdate>1999-07-15</startdate>
	<location>THOHOYANDOU</location>
	<day>3</day>
	<names>MR SIOMA</names>
							<url>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=53532&amp;t=&amp;tab=hearings</url>
	<originalhtml>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/amntrans/1999/99071214_tho_990714th.htm</originalhtml>
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			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>This will be Exhibit B.  Mr Sioma, what language would you prefer to use?</text>
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			<speaker>MR SIOMA</speaker>
			<text>I will use (indistinct) Venda.</text>
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		<line number="3">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Very well.  Have you got any objection to the taking of the oath?</text>
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		<line number="4">
			<speaker>MR SIOMA</speaker>
			<text>No objection.</text>
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		<line number="5">
			<speaker>MR SIOMA</speaker>
			<text>(sworn states)</text>
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		<line number="6">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>You may proceed.</text>
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			<speaker>EXAMINATION BY MR NDOU</speaker>
			<text>Thank you, Mr Chairman.  Mr Sioma, you have an affidavit in front of you.</text>
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		<line number="8">
			<speaker>MR SIOMA</speaker>
			<text>Yes, it&#039;s true.</text>
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		<line number="9">
			<speaker>MR NDOU</speaker>
			<text>Do you agree that your signature appearing on the last page of the document is yours?</text>
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		<line number="10">
			<speaker>MR SIOMA</speaker>
			<text>Yes, I agree.</text>
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		<line number="11">
			<speaker>MR NDOU</speaker>
			<text>(Indistinct) that this affidavit may be handed in as your evidence?</text>
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		<line number="12">
			<speaker>MR SIOMA</speaker>
			<text>Yes, I agree.</text>
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		<line number="13">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>(Indistinct) that you wish to bring or effect on the affidavit?</text>
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		<line number="14">
			<speaker>MR SIOMA</speaker>
			<text>No, at this stage, no.</text>
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		<line number="15">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>(Indistinct) is that in terms of your instructions?</text>
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			<speaker>MR NDOU</speaker>
			<text>That is so.</text>
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		<line number="17">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>So you also as a legal advisor are comfortable that no amendments need to be brought.</text>
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		<line number="18">
			<speaker>MR NDOU</speaker>
			<text>Yes, I made sure that where there were problems, those are clarified.</text>
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		<line number="19">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Is there anything that you want to add to your affidavit that comes to mind now?</text>
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		<line number="20">
			<speaker>MR SIOMA</speaker>
			<text>No, at this stage.</text>
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		<line number="21">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>(Indistinct) Mr Van Rensburg?</text>
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		<line number="22">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>NO FURTHER QUESTIONS BY MR NDOU</text>
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		<line number="23">
			<speaker>CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR VAN RENSBURG</speaker>
			<text>Mr Sioma, I just want to put it to you that the reason why you attacked the house of the deceased and burned down his house and killed him was because he was suspected of being a witch and the community was frightened of witches.</text>
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			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Well, let&#039;s do it one by one.</text>
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			<speaker>MR VAN RENSBURG</speaker>
			<text>Pardon?</text>
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			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>It&#039;s been put to you that the reason why you participated in killing the deceased was because he was a witch, true or not?</text>
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			<speaker>MR SIOMA</speaker>
			<text>Some of it, that&#039;s one of it.</text>
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		<line number="28">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Yes, secondly it&#039;s been put to you, well Mr Van Rensburg, can you carry on then?</text>
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			<speaker>MR VAN RENSBURG</speaker>
			<text>Thank you.  And that that was the most important reason why you killed him, because he was a witch?</text>
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			<speaker>MR SIOMA</speaker>
			<text>That is not the only one.</text>
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			<speaker>MR VAN RENSBURG</speaker>
			<text>The most important one?</text>
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		<line number="32">
			<speaker>MR SIOMA</speaker>
			<text>The most important one is that he was in the midst of witches and that he was disturbing the activities of the youth.</text>
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			<speaker>MR VAN RENSBURG</speaker>
			<text>You agree that there was prior to the day that he was killed, no decision to kill him?</text>
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		<line number="34">
			<speaker>MR SIOMA</speaker>
			<text>The decision of killing him was not there, was never made.</text>
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			<speaker>MR VAN RENSBURG</speaker>
			<text>(Indistinct), thank you Mr Chairman.</text>
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		<line number="36">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>NO FURTHER QUESTIONS BY MR VAN RENSBURG</text>
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		<line number="37">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Ms Patel?</text>
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		<line number="38">
			<speaker>MS PATEL</speaker>
			<text>No, thank you, honourable Chairperson.</text>
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		<line number="39">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Mr Ndou?</text>
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		<line number="40">
			<speaker>MR NDOU</speaker>
			<text>None.</text>
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			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>(Indistinct)</text>
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			<speaker>ADV SIGODI</speaker>
			<text>No questions, Chairperson.</text>
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		<line number="43">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Tell me, what do you feel about what you did that day?  What do you feel today?</text>
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			<speaker>MR SIOMA</speaker>
			<text>For now I&#039;m feeling in my heart very painful, since it happened I&#039;m feeling very concerned when seeing the children of the deceased in front of me now.  In the past I was unable to meet them so that we can forgive each other as we are living together at home...(intervention).</text>
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		<line number="45">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>(Indistinct) are you prepared to make attempts to come to terms with the family?</text>
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		<line number="46">
			<speaker>MR SIOMA</speaker>
			<text>Yes, I&#039;m fully prepared that we can live together like before.</text>
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		<line number="47">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>I would appeal to the respective representatives to make attempts to facilitate such a meeting.  I don&#039;t know if it will occur but at least I&#039;m hopeful that it could.  Mr Ndou?</text>
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			<speaker>MR NDOU</speaker>
			<text>I agree.</text>
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		<line number="49">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Yes, thank you.</text>
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		<line number="50">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>WITNESS EXCUSED</text>
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