amntrans AMNESTY HEARINGS 1999-12-07 PRETORIA 13 IZAK DANIEL BOSCH https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=53924&t=&tab=hearings https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/amntrans/1999/9911151210_pre_991207pt.htm IZAK DANIEL BOSCH (sworn states) MR LAMEY Chairperson, may I just make sure whether you have before you the supplementary affidavit of Mr Bosch. I don't think that has been accorded an exhibit number. CHAIRPERSON Didn't we give it a page number, 49(a)? MR LAX Yes, yes we did. MR LAMEY As it pleases you, Chairperson. CHAIRPERSON That it should thereafter be considered as following after the original page 49 and be part of the first bundle, which was an amplification of what he had said in paragraph 21 on page 48 and a correction as to the locality. MR LAMEY As it please you, Chairperson. EXAMINATION BY MR LAMEY Mr Bosch, you have applied for amongst others, for your involvement in the operation during which there was a shooting in Vosloorus and certain MK members or an MK member that was then known as MK Valdez died after the shooting. MR BOSCH That is correct, Mr Chairperson. MR LAMEY In the bundle in front of the Committee on page 37 and 38, we find the prescribed form and is it correct that you personally filled in this form? MR BOSCH That is correct, yes. MR LAMEY And then as annexure, there's a short reference to various paragraphs, where you described incidents for which you apply for amnesty. And then on page 81 you talk about an incident in Secunda where a person was shot in the leg and then killed later. You then refer to MK Valdez page 88? MR BOSCH Yes, that is correct, he bled to death. MR LAMEY Very well. Is it also correct that in order to provide more information to the Committee for the purpose of this hearing, that a further statement was issued and was then signed by you under oath and this then referred to document 49(A)? MR BOSCH That is correct, Mr Chairperson. MR LAMEY Do you confirm the correctness of the content thereof? MR BOSCH Yes, I do, Mr Chairperson. MR LAMEY And in this hearing you also heard the oral evidence of Mr de Kock and you also had insight in his application? MR BOSCH That is correct. MR LAMEY And do you reconcile yourself with his version? MR BOSCH Yes I do. MR LAMEY For the purpose of or what happened in this, can you just tell the Committee, what was your rank at that stage? MR BOSCH I was a Sergeant. MR LAMEY You were also a member of Vlakplaas. MR BOSCH Yes, that is correct. MR LAMEY Under the command of Mr de Kock? MR BOSCH That is correct. MR LAMEY Did you at any stage personally partake in the assault of MK Valdez? MR BOSCH No. MR LAMEY Were you in the vicinity? MR BOSCH Yes, I was. MR LAMEY Chairperson, unless there is anything else, that is the evidence in chief from this applicant, thank you. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS BY MR LAMEY MR HATTINGH Thank you Mr Chairman, I have no questions. NO QUESTIONS BY MR HATTINGH MR DU PLESSIS I have no questions thank you Mr Chairman. NO QUESTIONS BY MR VAN DER MERWE MR CORNELIUS In the light of the indication by my colleague, I have no questions, thank you Mr Chairman. NO QUESTIONS BY MR CORNELIUS MR KOOPEDI Chairperson, on behalf of the victims, we have no questions to this applicant. NO QUESTIONS BY MR KOOPEDI MS LOCKHAT No questions, thank you Chairperson. NO QUESTIONS BY MS LOCKHAT MR SIBANYONI I've got no questions, Chairperson. MR LAX Just bear with me a short moment Chair, I want to just check something. Just one thing, Mr Bosch, you say in your affidavit that you knew that this man was assaulted. How did you know that? MR BOSCH Mr Chairperson, the truck's door was open so you could see in. MR LAX And obviously anyone else standing around would have seen that? MR BOSCH That is correct, Mr Chairperson. CHAIRPERSON Have you finished? MR LAX Yes. CHAIRPERSON One matter which I don't want to investigate in any way at this hearing, I just want to confirm it. If you look at page 47 - have you got your original application? Paragraph 18. MR BOSCH Yes, Chairperson. CHAIRPERSON Did you benefit in any way through these false claims? MR BOSCH No, Mr Chairperson. CHAIRPERSON Now did you stay on the scene or did you go with Mr de Kock and others? MR BOSCH Mr Chairperson, we went with Mr de Kock to go and look for the weapons. CHAIRPERSON And that was after he had taken part in this questioning? MR BOSCH That is correct, Mr Chairperson. CHAIRPERSON Thank you. WITNESS EXCUSED MR LAMEY Chairperson, I believe Mr Flores has arrived and he's the next applicant, thank you.