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	<type>AMNESTY HEARINGS</type>
	<startdate>2000-07-12</startdate>
	<location>PRETORIA</location>
	<day>6</day>
	<names>FRIK CRAUSE</names>
	<case>AM4124/96</case>
						<url>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=54337&amp;t=&amp;tab=hearings</url>
	<originalhtml>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/amntrans/2000/200712pr.htm</originalhtml>
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		<line number="1">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>His application is at page 32 to 39.  He deals with this matter at page 34.</text>
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		<line number="2">
			<speaker>FRIK CRAUSE</speaker>
			<text>(sworn states)</text>
		</line>
		<line number="3">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Please be seated.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="4">
			<speaker>EXAMINATION BY MR VISSER</speaker>
			<text>Mr Crause, you also ask that Exhibit A and B must be incorporated in your evidence and do you also confirm the written application?</text>
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		<line number="5">
			<speaker>MR F CRAUSE</speaker>
			<text>Yes.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="6">
			<speaker>MR VISSER</speaker>
			<text>You&#039;ve heard the evidence of your then Commander, Mr Crause and Mr Smit?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="7">
			<speaker>MR F CRAUSE</speaker>
			<text>That is correct, yes.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="8">
			<speaker>MR VISSER</speaker>
			<text>Is there anything that you would like to add to their testimony?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="9">
			<speaker>MR F CRAUSE</speaker>
			<text>Yes, there is something I&#039;d like to add.  I agree with everything that they&#039;ve said.</text>
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		<line number="10">
			<speaker>MR VISSER</speaker>
			<text>And do you also then ask for amnesty for the same thing that they are asking?</text>
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		<line number="11">
			<speaker>MR F CRAUSE</speaker>
			<text>Yes.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="12">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Did you say that you wanted to add something?</text>
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		<line number="13">
			<speaker>MR VISSER</speaker>
			<text>He&#039;s says he&#039;s got nothing to add, Chairperson.  Unless you want him to repeat it, or there&#039;s no point in it.</text>
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		<line number="14">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>I heard the Interpreter said</text>
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		<line number="15" isquote="true">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>&quot;I have something to add&quot;</text>
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		<line number="16">
			<speaker>MR VISSER</speaker>
			<text>Oh, I wasn&#039;t listening to the Interpreter.</text>
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		<line number="17">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Well that&#039;s the point, I misunderstood him.</text>
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		<line number="18">
			<speaker>MR VISSER</speaker>
			<text>Oh, so it&#039;s a misunderstanding all round.  Chairperson no, he says he&#039;s got nothing to add.  That is all from him.</text>
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		<line number="19">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>NO FURTHER QUESTIONS BY MR VISSER</text>
		</line>
		<line number="20">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>WITNESS EXCUSED</text>
		</line>
		<line number="21">
			<speaker>MR VISSER</speaker>
			<text>And the last witness is Gen Steyn, Chairperson.</text>
		</line>
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