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	<startdate>2000-07-31</startdate>
	<location>JOHANNESBURG</location>
	<day>1</day>
	<names>IAN HUGH ROBERTSON</names>
	<case>AM5891/97</case>
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			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Are you moving to Mr Robertson?</text>
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			<speaker>MR RADITAPOLE</speaker>
			<text>I am indeed, Chairperson, thank you.</text>
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			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Mr Robertson, are you also affirming or taking the oath?</text>
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			<speaker>MR ROBERTSON</speaker>
			<text>I&#039;m affirming.</text>
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			<speaker>IAN HUGH ROBERTSON</speaker>
			<text>(sworn states)</text>
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			<speaker>EXAMINATION BY MR RADITAPOLE</speaker>
			<text>Mr Robertson, do you confirm that you&#039;ve applied for amnesty in relation to the two activities we&#039;ve just been discussing with Mr de Lange?</text>
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			<speaker>MR ROBERTSON</speaker>
			<text>I do confirm that.</text>
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			<speaker>MR RADITAPOLE</speaker>
			<text>Do you confirm the joint statement read out on to the record by Mr de Lange?</text>
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			<speaker>MR ROBERTSON</speaker>
			<text>I confirm the joint statement read out by Mr de Lange and endorse it fully.</text>
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			<speaker>MR RADITAPOLE</speaker>
			<text>And do you confirm the other evidence given by Mr de Lange in relation to questions that have been put to him today?</text>
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			<speaker>MR ROBERTSON</speaker>
			<text>Yes I do indeed, I wouldn&#039;t want to elaborate, I think that Mr de Lange did a sterling job on that.</text>
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			<speaker>MR RADITAPOLE</speaker>
			<text>And would you have anything else to add in conclusion?</text>
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			<speaker>MR ROBERTSON</speaker>
			<text>Nothing Sir.</text>
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			<speaker>MR RADITAPOLE</speaker>
			<text>Thank you Chairperson, I have nothing further to ask.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>NO FURTHER QUESTIONS BY MR RADITAPOLE</text>
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			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Thank you.  Mr Coetzee?</text>
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			<speaker>CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR COETZEE</speaker>
			<text>Mr Robertson, can I thereby accept that your answers to the questions that I posed to Mr de Lange will be the same as the ones he supplied to the Commission?</text>
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			<speaker>MR ROBERTSON</speaker>
			<text>Absolutely, Sir.</text>
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			<speaker>MR COETZEE</speaker>
			<text>Thank you, I&#039;ve got no further questions.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>NO FURTHER QUESTIONS BY MR COETZEE</text>
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			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Thank you Mr Coetzee.</text>
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			<speaker>MR KOOPEDI</speaker>
			<text>No questions from me, thank you Chairperson.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>NO QUESTIONS BY MR KOOPEDI</text>
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			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Ms Mtanga, are you going to break the record?</text>
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			<speaker>MS MTANGA</speaker>
			<text>No questions, Chairperson.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>NO QUESTIONS BY MS MTANGA</text>
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		<line number="27">
			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Thank you.  Panel?</text>
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			<speaker>MS MTANGA</speaker>
			<text>No thank you Chairperson, I don&#039;t want to break the record.</text>
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			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>A disciplined Panel.  And you, are you going to spoil it or what?</text>
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			<speaker>MR RADITAPOLE</speaker>
			<text>I have no re-examination, Chairperson.</text>
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			<speaker>CHAIRPERSON</speaker>
			<text>Mr Robertson, thank you very much.  You&#039;re also excused.</text>
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			<speaker>MR ROBERTSON</speaker>
			<text>Thank you.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>WITNESS EXCUSED</text>
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