amntrans AMNESTY HEARINGS 2000-09-04 DURBAN 1 DAVID MADURAI AM4013/96 https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=54457&t=&tab=hearings https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/amntrans/2000/200904db.htm MR MOERANE With the Chairperson's permission I call Mr David Madurai. DAVID MADURAI (sworn states) EXAMINATION BY MR MOERANE Mr Madurai, how old are you? MR MADURAI I'm 39 years old. MR MOERANE And where do you reside? MR MADURAI In Johannesburg, in Yeoville. MR MOERANE Yes. You are applying for amnesty with regard to the two incidents which have been mentioned, that is the Chatsworth Magistrate's incident and Rajbansi incident? MR MADURAI That is correct. MR MOERANE And did you take part in those incidents? MR MADURAI Yes I did, as part of the unit. MR MOERANE Yes. Firstly, tell us about this unit. Who were members of the unit? MR MADURAI The members of the unit were Derek Naidoo, Lenny Serandaran Naidoo, Richard Vallihu, Raymond Metheraj and myself. MR MOERANE Yes. What was your particular role in the incident involving the Chatsworth Magistrate's Court? MR MADURAI The incident involving the Chatsworth Magistrate's Court, I was involved in carrying the limpet mine. Well, doing surveillance and together with other unit members, making a decision about where it should be placed and what time and obviously placing the limpet mine. MR MOERANE At what time was the limpet mine placed in position? MR MADURAI It was placed around 6.30 on a Friday. MR MOERANE It's the only reason why you chose that time and that day? MR MADURAI Yes, the court closes at four o'clock on a Friday and there weren't any people around so - and the point that was chosen was where there were no pedestrian traffic at all. The side of the court, so therefore at that time and place, I mean that particular place of the court was chosen. MR MOERANE I see. What was your role regarding the Rajbansi incident? MR MADURAI MR MOERANE Approximately what time was the limpet mine placed in position? MR MADURAI If my memory serves me correctly it was about 10, 10.15 around that time. I don't know the exact time. MR MOERANE On the Sunday evening? MR MOERANE Yes the Sunday was when we got our instructions from our commander, Raymond Metheraj. MR MOERANE Do you associate yourself with the reasons given by Dr Ramlakan and others for selection of these particular targets? MR MADURAI Yes I do. MR MOERANE And you also associate yourself with his explanation and that of the others of the political motivation of your actions? MR MADURAI Absolutely. MR MOERANE Did you derive any material or financial benefits from your actions? MR MADURAI No, neither did any of the other members of the unit according to my knowledge. MR MOERANE Did you know Mr Rajbansi personally? MR MADURAI No, I didn't. I mean I didn't know him personally. MR MOERANE Did you have any grudge or any feeling of ill will or spite against him? MR MADURAI Not on a personal level, no. MR MOERANE That is the evidence. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS BY MR MOERANE CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MS CAMBANIS Sir, can I take it in relation to the events that you apply, you had no contact with Mr Raymond Lalla? MR MADURAI No, I did not have any contact with him at all. MS CAMBANIS Thank you. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS BY MS CAMBANIS MS MOHAMED I have no questions, Chairperson. NO QUESTIONS BY MS MOHAMED CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR MAPOMA MR MADURAI No, I was not alone, that is correct. MR MAPOMA In whose company were you? MR MADURAI The members of the unit, Lenny Serandaran, Derek, Raymond and myself. CHAIRPERSON Sorry, who was that first one? MR MADURAI Lerandaran Naidoo, Lenny Serandaran Naidoo. MR MAPOMA And would you just put us in picture on how was this done, the placing of this limpet mine? Who did what and all that? At the scene. MR MADURAI MR MAPOMA Well the limpet mine was carried by Raymond and Derek behind us and Lenny and I carried a ball with us, so that was the distraction. So we dropped the ball and the limpet mine was placed and we were picked up by Richard at the end of the street. MR MAPOMA And then was that the modus operandi which occurred with relation to the Chatsworth Magistrate's Court? MR MADURAI This play, Lenny and I carried the limpet mine to the selected point of the Chatsworth Court and Raymond and Derek were nearby as lookouts and we placed the limpet mine and then we left as well. MR MAPOMA So was it set that it must blast after some time? MR MADURAI Generally it was set to explode some thirty five minutes of the pin is pulled. MR MAPOMA I see. Thank you, no further questions. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS BY MR MAPOMA MR MOERANE May the applicant be excused? Thank you. WITNESS EXCUSED