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	<startdate>1997-07-02</startdate>
	<location>PIETERSBURG</location>
	<day>3</day>
	<names>WILLEM JOHANNES VAN DER MERWE</names>
	<case>4380/96</case>
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			<text>CHAIRMAN:  Today is 2 July 1997 and we are proceeding with the same matter of </text>
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			<text>Erwee et al.</text>
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			<text>WILLEM JOHANNES VAN DER MERWE:  (Still under oath).</text>
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			<text>CHAIRMAN:  Mr Van der Merwe is being recalled at the request of Mr Visser.  Mr </text>
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			<text>Visser?</text>
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			<text>FURTHER EXAMINATION BY ADV VISSER: Thank you, Mr Chairman. Mr Van </text>
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			<text>der Merwe, there is something which I forgot when you were testifying.   You told us </text>
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			<text>that after the events there was a Press conference or a Press statement was released, </text>
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			<text>regarding these events, and in this Press statement it was said that seven terrorists had </text>
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			<text>entered the country in the mini-bus and that one of them or that six had been killed and </text>
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			<text>that one had escaped.</text>
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			<text>MR VAN DER MERWE:  That is so, Chairperson.</text>
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			<text>ADV VISSER:  Could you say who was responsible for that Press statement?</text>
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			<text>MR VAN DER MERWE:  I made the statement to the then SABC. </text>
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			<text>ADV VISSER:  Yes, the facts are not entirely correct, because the seventh person </text>
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			<text>who escaped was not a so-called terrorist but a policeman namely Matthews </text>
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			<text>Sehlwana.</text>
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			<text>MR VAN DER MERWE:  That is entirely true, it was done in order to conceal the </text>
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			<text>true facts, namely that a policeman had been present.</text>
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			<text>ADV VISSER:  And why would you have wanted to conceal that fact?</text>
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			<text>MR VAN DER MERWE:  To protect Sehlwana and to conceal his involvement in the </text>
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			<text>matter.</text>
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			<text>ADV VISSER:  That is all the evidence in this regard.  It is fact that happened and I </text>
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			<text>thought you should be aware of it.</text>
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			<text>CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Mr Van der Merwe.</text>
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			<text>ADV VISSER	61	W J VAN DER MERWE</text>
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			<text>PIETERSBURG HEARING	AMNESTY/NORTHERN PROVINCE</text>
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