hrvtrans HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS 1996-10-29 ALEXANDRA DAISY MASHIGO https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=54920&t=&tab=hearings https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/hrvtrans/alex/mashigo.htm MS MKHIZE: Thank you for coming here. We would like you to stand up and take an oath. DAISY MASHIGO</B> (s.s.) MS MKHIZE I will help you so that you will tell us your story. I would like you to tell the Commission about yourself. Who are you and where do you come from. MRS MASHIGO I am Daisy Mashigo, I stay in 58 3rd Avenue. It was on Saturday, we were coming from the funeral. When we came out of the burial when we were in the double up, the police shot us with their tear-gas and I ran home looking for my children. They were not there. I went out looking for them and I met Anna. I asked her where are my children and she told me that she was also looking for her children. And then I heard that someone was hitting me with a stone and I fell down. They shot me in the back and I regained consciousness in the hospital. MS MKHIZE Thank you, Daisy. You said that you were with someone else. Where were you going and where were you coming from? MRS MASHIGO The bullets were coming from the left side, from the Jambon side, near the beer hall and the white policemen were there. I did not see who shot me but I just heard a shot in my shoulder and I fell down and they beat me. MS MKHIZE What is the name of the person you were with? ALEXANDRA HEARING TRC/GAUTENG 2 MASHIGO MRS MASHIGO It was Anna. MS MKHIZE Did they shoot Anna? MRS MASHIGO No, because she ran away and I was looking for my children at the time they shot me. MS MKHIZE Can you please explain to us what was happening. You said you were looking for your children. What was happening? MRS MASHIGO I was looking for my children. I left them at home, I attended a funeral. When I came back from the funeral I saw that there was conflict in the street. I just wanted to see where my children were. I went to the Selbourne Street looking for my children and I didn't see them and there was violence and conflict in the streets, people were crying looking for their children. MS MKHIZE Daisy, can you please explain to me what was happening. When you said there was conflict in the streets what was happening. MRS MASHIGO At that time we were coming from the funeral and the white men were just firing bullets all over. MS MKHIZE When you say you were coming from the funeral was this person a comrade? MRS MASHIGO Yes, he was a comrade, he was working in JAS. MS MKHIZE You said that you woke up in the hospital. Were there any policemen who came to you or did you write any statement, did you give them any statement? MRS MASHIGO No, I did not. MS MKHIZE In the General Hospital - how long did you stay there? MRS MASHIGO I was unconscious, I don't remember but I think it was about two to three months. I stayed there for ALEXANDRA HEARING TRC/GAUTENG 3 MASHIGO two to three months. MS MKHIZE At this time you did not know - at the time you were in hospital you did not know what was happening. MRS MASHIGO No, I did not know. MS MKHIZE In your statement you said that you cannot do anything for yourself. You are helpless. Did you get a lawyer to help you? MRS MASHIGO I was helped by the people of Red Cross. They supported me, they gave me money and they gave me clothes. And they were the ones who were helping me. MS MKHIZE How do you survive at this time? Where are you staying, with whom are you staying? MRS MASHIGO I get a pension fund but I started getting it last year in February. MS MKHIZE Where are you staying and with whom are you staying? MRS MASHIGO I am staying with my children. MS MKHIZE How many children do you have? MRS MASHIGO I have four children. There were five but now there are only four left. MS MKHIZE Are they still at school or are they working? MRS MASHIGO The oldest are not working but the younger one is at school. MS MKHIZE When you say you get a pension fund do you get it .... MRS MASHIGO Yes, I do get a pension. MS MKHIZE What is your request to this Commission, what do you want the Commission to do for you? MRS MASHIGO Before I answer that I have a bullet - there is still a bullet in my body. MS MKHIZE Yes, I have noted that, Mam. I was still asking ALEXANDRA HEARING TRC/GAUTENG 4 MASHIGO that when you were making your statement what did you hope to achieve, what is your request to this Commission? MRS MASHIGO My request is that I have a child still at school and my house is so small, it is only two rooms. MS MKHIZE I would like to take you back. How many people were there when you were shot? MRS MASHIGO There were many people, it was the time of the riots at that time. MS MKHIZE Were they in the car or were they on foot? MRS MASHIGO They were in the Caspers near the beer hall, they parked their Hippos, their Caspers near the beer hall and they were just firing all around. MS MKHIZE Did you hear anything, were they saying anything? MRS MASHIGO No, I just heard a bullet in my arm. I was not aware at that time that they were shooting me. MS MKHIZE As it was a time, the riots time and there was conflict in the township how did you know that the police were the ones who shot you? MRS MASHIGO I saw them because they shot many people at that time. They were white men and Mtebi asked me what happened when I was in hospital and he wanted me to point out the people who shot me and then I said I don't know them because there were many and they were in their Caspers. MS MKHIZE Thank you, Mam and I will hand over to my colleagues to help you with your evidence. MR MANTHATA Daisy, these children that you were looking for on your way back from the funeral are they the same children that you say they are grown up today and then some of them are unemployed? MRS MASHIGO The first one was born in 1972 and the second ALEXANDRA HEARING TRC/GAUTENG 5 MASHIGO one in 1974. They were still young then. The one who passed away is the one born in 1974. MR MANTHATA Where did you finally find them? MRS MASHIGO I didn't find them because a car just took me to the hospital. I am explaining that I was still busy looking for them when I met with these gunshots and I fell on the ground. I didn't get to find the children on time. MR MANTHATA You say whose car took you to hospital? MRS MASHIGO I don't know because there were cars up and about. They were just taking us to the hospital. MR MANTHATA Whilst you were in hospital did you manage to know if there were any other people who were injured on that same day with you? MRS MASHIGO I don't remember because this happened a long time ago and they took us to different hospitals and I don't know how did I get to the hospital because I had lost consciousness. MR MANTHATA You say that you are requesting for a house. Did the policemen damage your house? MRS MASHIGO I am requesting this because I am helpless, I cannot do anything for myself at the moment. MR MANTHATA I thank you. I don't have any further questions. MS MKHIZE Daisy, we thank you for coming forward. Your statement will be taken and forwarded to the investigating unit so as to see as to whether they can get any further evidence. We thank you and we thank God for seeing you through that you are still alive despite the fact that you have scars. We will try our best to try and improve on your health situation. Thank you.