hrvtrans HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS 1997-05-23 BALFOUR 1 ROSELYNA MAGQAGQA JB3410 https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=54946&t=&tab=hearings https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/hrvtrans/balfour/4balmagq.htm DR ALLY MRS MAGQAGQA (sworn states) DR ALLY MR MANTHATA Mrs Magqagqa, Roselyna, we welcome you. Feel at home. Can you please tell us how you make a living. Are you working ? MRS MAGQAGQA MR MANTHATA Why from DEBA ? MRS MAGQAGQA MR MANTHATA Have you got any sons or daughters ? MRS MAGQAGQA I have a son as well as a daughter and my son has got a house in Orange Farm. MR MANTHATA And the daughter ? MRS MAGQAGQA MR MANTHATA Is your son working ? The one on your left. MRS MAGQAGQA Yes, he is. MR MANTHATA Can you tell us about this incident when your son Enock was shot and killed. MRS MAGQAGQA MR MANTHATA Was there never any inquest into the death of Boetie ? MRS MAGQAGQA MR MANTHATA MRS MAGQAGQA No, the only people who came to me came the following day after the incident. Afterwards I went to the hospital to find out what had happened and when I got to the hospital I was told that he was at the mortuary. I went to the mortuary to identify him and I came back home. MR MANTHATA MRS MAGQAGQA MR MANTHATA Could all these people not help you to get a legal defence ? MRS MAGQAGQA No. MR MANTHATA How old was Boetie at the time of his death ? MRS MAGQAGQA MR MANTHATA So he was working already ? MRS MAGQAGQA Yes, he was. MR MANTHATA Did he have his own family ? MRS MAGQAGQA No, but he had a girlfriend who bore his baby. They were not married. MR MANTHATA I understand you to say that he was supporting you and the baby and even the lady that he had not married yet. MRS MAGQAGQA MR MANTHATA So you maintain that you were the only person that he was supporting at that time ? MRS MAGQAGQA Yes, I could say that because his father had died by then. The following week Boetie died. MR MANTHATA Where was he working ? MRS MAGQAGQA MR MANTHATA What did the firm do for him ? MRS MAGQAGQA Claasen bought the coffin. MR MANTHATA No further questions, Mrs Magqagqa. DR ALLY MRS MAGQAGQA No, I never heard anything about that. DR ALLY Did you ever have an occasion to discuss with the previous witness who says that he was together with your son, Mr Mnisi, when this councillor shot at them, Enock Jafta ? MRS MAGQAGQA DR ALLY Maybe we can ask our staff, our briefers later to-day to arrange for you to actually speak to Mr Mnisi just to get more information. Do you want to say something ? MR MAGQAGQA DR ALLY Thank you very much for clarifying that for us. What happened after the death of your brother ? Was this matter ever taken any further ? MR MAGQAGQA DR ALLY The Councillor who was killed, do you have any idea as to how he was eventually killed ? Did you hear anything ? MR MAGQAGQA DR ALLY This Councillor, did he have a family as well ? MRS MAGQAGQA DR ALLY MR MAGQAGQA DR ALLY Since this incident, has there been any contact of relationship between your family and the family of the Councillor ? MRS MAGQAGQA DR ALLY You may have seen on the programme of witnesses who are going to ge appearing later to-day, there will be a family member of the Councillor who was killed coming to testify before the Commission, to speak about their understanding of what happened. If the family members of the Councillor who was killed are willing, how would you feel if the Truth Commission tries to facilitate some meeting so that there can be some discussion ? If the other family was willing, how would you feel about such a meeting ? MR MAGQAGQA MR MAGQAGQA MR MAGQAGQA William Vuma Ntetwa Magqagqa. DR ALLY Thank you very much William and thank you very much to your mother as well.