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	<type>HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS</type>
	<startdate>1997-05-23</startdate>
	<location>BALFOUR</location>
	<day>1</day>
	<names>WILHEMINAH M NGAKANE</names>
	<case>JB3350</case>
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		<line number="1">
			<speaker>DR ALLY</speaker>
			<text>Could I ask if Wilheminah Ngakane is here ?</text>
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		<line number="2">
			<speaker>DR RANDERA</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="3">
			<speaker>DR ALLY</speaker>
			<text>Mrs Ngakane ?  Welcome.  Have you brought somebody with you ?  The person sitting next to you, is it a family member ?  Could you introduce her to us</text>
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		<line number="4">
			<speaker>MRS NGAKANE</speaker>
			<text>Gloria</text>
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		<line number="5">
			<speaker>DR ALLY</speaker>
			<text>How is she related to you ?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="6">
			<speaker>MRS NGAKANE</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="7">
			<speaker>DR ALLY</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="8">
			<speaker>MRS NGAKANE</speaker>
			<text>(sworn states)</text>
		</line>
		<line number="9">
			<speaker>DR ALLY</speaker>
			<text>Thank you very much.  I will hand you over to Doctor Randera.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="10">
			<speaker>DR RANDERA</speaker>
			<text>Wilheminah, good afternoon and to your daughter.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="11">
			<speaker>MRS NGAKANE</speaker>
			<text>Good afternoon gentlemen.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="12">
			<speaker>DR RANDERA</speaker>
			<text>Wilheminah, first of all just tell us, tell the audience your relationship to Japhta and then if you will, tell us something about him.</text>
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		<line number="13">
			<speaker>MRS NGAKANE</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="14">
			<speaker>DR RANDERA</speaker>
			<text>Wilheminah, do you want to continue.  We can stop is you like.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="15">
			<speaker>MRS NGAKANE</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="16">
			<speaker>DR RANDERA</speaker>
			<text>Gloria, do you wish to say something ?  Will you switch on ..........</text>
		</line>
		<line number="17">
			<speaker>MISS NGAKANE</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="18">
			<speaker>TRANSLATOR</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="19">
			<speaker>DR RANDERA</speaker>
			<text>My apologies.  At the end of the statement it talks about Japhta having other family members, two children.  Is that right ?</text>
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		<line number="20">
			<speaker>MISS NGAKANE</speaker>
			<text>Yes.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="21">
			<speaker>DR RANDERA</speaker>
			<text>Was your uncle married ?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="22">
			<speaker>MISS NGAKANE</speaker>
			<text>Yes, he was married.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="23">
			<speaker>TRANSLATOR</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="24">
			<speaker>MISS NGAKANE</speaker>
			<text>He was married and he divorced.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="25">
			<speaker>DR RANDERA</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="26">
			<speaker>DR RANDERA</speaker>
			<text>Your mother earlier on said that your uncle came to see her that morning where she was living.  Was she living in Siyathemba ?  She mentioned some other place.</text>
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		<line number="27">
			<speaker>MISS NGAKANE</speaker>
			<text>Yes, I live in Siyathemba but she was staying at Wach.  My uncle came to tell us that he was leaving for Bloemfontein for Church gathering.</text>
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		<line number="28">
			<speaker>DR RANDERA</speaker>
			<text>How far is Wach from Siyathemba ?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="29">
			<speaker>MISS NGAKANE</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="30">
			<speaker>DR RANDERA</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="31">
			<speaker>MISS NGAKANE</speaker>
			<text>I am twenty seven years old.</text>
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		<line number="32">
			<speaker>DR RANDERA</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="33">
			<speaker>MISS NGAKANE</speaker>
			<text>Yes.</text>
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		<line number="34">
			<speaker>DR RANDERA</speaker>
			<text>Were you aware of this protest march that was going to take place that day ?</text>
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		<line number="35">
			<speaker>MISS NGAKANE</speaker>
			<text>I was still indoors because of a little baby that I got just a month before but I heard rumours of this protest.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="36">
			<speaker>DR RANDERA</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="37">
			<speaker>MISS NGAKANE</speaker>
			<text>I heard later that the police were present because one member of my family was a policeman.</text>
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		<line number="38">
			<speaker>DR RANDERA</speaker>
			<text>What intervention was there on the part of the police on that day ?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="39">
			<speaker>MISS NGAKANE</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="40">
			<speaker>DR RANDERA</speaker>
			<text>If I can come back to your mother.  Is she willing to answer any more questions ?</text>
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		<line number="41">
			<speaker>MRS NGAKANE</speaker>
			<text>I am willing to answer questions.</text>
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		<line number="42">
			<speaker>DR RANDERA</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="43">
			<speaker>MRS NGAKANE</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="44">
			<speaker>DR RANDERA</speaker>
			<text>Thank you, Wilheminah.  Chairperson, I have no further questions.</text>
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		<line number="45">
			<speaker>DR ALLY</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
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