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	<type>HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS</type>
	<startdate>1997-05-23</startdate>
	<location>BALFOUR</location>
	<day>1</day>
	<names>JUDITH NHLAPO</names>
	<case>JB3483</case>
						<url>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=54951&amp;t=&amp;tab=hearings</url>
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			<speaker>DR ALLY</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="2">
			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text>Yes.</text>
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		<line number="3">
			<speaker>DR ALLY</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="4">
			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text>(sworn states)</text>
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		<line number="5">
			<speaker>DR ALLY</speaker>
			<text>Thank you very much Mrs Nhlapo.  Tom ?</text>
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		<line number="6">
			<speaker>MR MANTHATA</speaker>
			<text>Mrs Nhlapo, relax and be with at home.  Mrs Nhlapo, is Mr Nhlapo still alive ?</text>
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		<line number="7">
			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="8">
			<speaker>MR MANTHATA</speaker>
			<text>When did he die, Mrs Nhlapo ?</text>
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		<line number="9">
			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text>In 1990.</text>
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		<line number="10">
			<speaker>MR MANTHATA</speaker>
			<text>Do you have children, Mrs Nhlapo ?</text>
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		<line number="11">
			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text>Yes, I do.</text>
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		<line number="12">
			<speaker>MR MANTHATA</speaker>
			<text>What are they doing ?  Are they school children or are they working ?</text>
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		<line number="13">
			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text>They are working.  I do have grandchildren.</text>
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		<line number="14">
			<speaker>TRANSLATOR</speaker>
			<text>The speaker is  not quite audible.</text>
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		<line number="15">
			<speaker>MR MANTHATA</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="16">
			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="17">
			<speaker>MR MANTHATA</speaker>
			<text>You tell us in your statement that Mr Nhlapo was being forced or pressurized to resign from the Council.  What form of pressure was being brought on Mr Nhlapo ?</text>
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		<line number="18">
			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text>They insisted that he should resign and leave his position as  Councillor.  After his resignation, they bombed our house.</text>
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		<line number="19">
			<speaker>MR MANTHATA</speaker>
			<text>So he did resign ?</text>
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		<line number="20">
			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text>Yes, he did resign after they bombed our house.</text>
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		<line number="21">
			<speaker>MR MANTHATA</speaker>
			<text>After bombing the house, what became of you and Mr Nhlapo ?</text>
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		<line number="22">
			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text>What do you mean ?</text>
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		<line number="23">
			<speaker>MR MANTHATA</speaker>
			<text>What I mean is, where did you acquire a new house now that that house was destroyed ?</text>
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		<line number="24">
			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text>Only two room were destroyed where they threw the bomb.  Only two rooms caught fire and were destroyed.</text>
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		<line number="25">
			<speaker>MR MANTHATA</speaker>
			<text>Can you tell us the whole story.  Just relax, Mrs Nhlapo and tell us the whole horror of a bomb house, the pressure for resignation and all that.</text>
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			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text>They first bombed our bedroom and my boy was sleeping in that room.  I was still awake, in the kitchen.  The boy woke up and furniture had caught fire already.</text>
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		<line number="27">
			<speaker>MR MANTHATA</speaker>
			<text>So you remained in that house with some rooms destroyed and this is where you are still ?</text>
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		<line number="28">
			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="29">
			<speaker>MR MANTHATA</speaker>
			<text>How did Mr Nhlapo die ?</text>
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		<line number="30">
			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text>The kids are the ones who took him.  He was in a Kombi and he died in that Kombi.</text>
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		<line number="31">
			<speaker>MR MANTHATA</speaker>
			<text>An accident ? A car accident ?</text>
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		<line number="32">
			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text>It was not a car accident.</text>
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		<line number="33">
			<speaker>MR MANTHATA</speaker>
			<text>What set the Kombi on fire ?</text>
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		<line number="34">
			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text>The Kombi was not set alight or was not on fire.  As he was driving he lost control and there were teachers there.  He was transporting the teachers and they managed to get control of the vehicle.  They took him out of the car and put him on the ground.  Thereafter they called the police.</text>
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		<line number="35">
			<speaker>MR MANTHATA</speaker>
			<text>What was the post-mortem ?  What did the post-mortem say the cause of death was ?</text>
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		<line number="36">
			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text>He died as a result of a heart attack.</text>
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		<line number="37">
			<speaker>MR MANTHATA</speaker>
			<text>It is a pity.  We are sorry for that.  During this time when they were pressurizing Mr Nhlapo to resign, what did your children say ?  What advice did the children give to you as family members, parents ?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text>You mean when they forced him to resign ? The kids also supported that and said he should go ahead and resign because the community is insisting.</text>
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			<speaker>MR MANTHATA</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="40">
			<speaker>DR ALLY</speaker>
			<text>Mrs Nhlapo, in your statement you say that your son Aron knows quite a lot about this incident.  Is that correct ?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text>Yes, he knows better because he witnessed when they first bombed the house.  The first bedroom because I was in the kitchen and my son was in the bedroom.</text>
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			<speaker>DR ALLY</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="43">
			<speaker>MRS NHLAPO</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="44">
			<speaker>DR ALLY</speaker>
			<text></text>
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