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	<type>HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS</type>
	<startdate>1997-02-12</startdate>
	<location>CRADOCK</location>
	<day>3</day>
	<names>NOMPUMELELO JANUARY</names>
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			<speaker>NOMPUMELELO JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>(sworn states)</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>MR SANDI:   Mrs January, you are going to tell us about your sister Nomfanezo January, is that correct?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>Yes that is correct.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>What can you tell us about Nomfanezo January, your sister?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>On this day I was in one house and people came to call me, telling me that my sister was shot.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>How old was your sister, was she born in 1944?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>She was younger than me.</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>You said that the people came and called you, telling you that your sister was shot?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>Yes.</text>
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		<line number="10">
			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Who shot your sister?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>They said it&#039;s Gakarama, they said it&#039;s Namapeni.</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>Is it Reli Nanapeni Buzani?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>Yes.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Was she taken to hospital before she passed away?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>Yes when I arrived there they had already taken her to hospital.  I went to hospital and she was tied up in the hospital bed.,  I tried talking to her but she couldn&#039;t respond to me.  I went back home and I slept.  In the morning when I woke up, I found that she passed away.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>When you said that she was tied in the bed, do you mean that she was in pain?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>Yes because she was shot in the head.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Did she have any children.</text>
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		<line number="19">
			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>Yes she had three children?</text>
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		<line number="20">
			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Where are they now?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>They are on the farm.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>How old is the child who is on the farm?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>All three of them are on the farm but I don&#039;t remember their ages.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Are they elderly or are they still at school.</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>They are not working, they are old though but they do casual jobs.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Are they at school?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>No they&#039;re not at school, they do some casual jobs.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Is there anyone who is in King Williamstown?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>Yes Ben is in King Williamstown.  Ben is also an older person.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Did your sister have a daughter?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>Yes, her name is Marsa.</text>
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		<line number="32">
			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Where is Marsa?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>She was in a shack and the shack burned down.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Where is the shack?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>Next to the Methodist Church.  I don&#039;t remember the name of the street.</text>
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		<line number="36">
			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Is this in Cradock?</text>
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		<line number="37">
			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>Yes here in Cradock.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Did the death of your sister affect your health?  Were you affected in any way, maybe your health?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>Yes because I was ill all the time after this incident.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Did you receive any medical treatment?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>I used to go to OPD to get some pills from the doctor from Port Elizabeth, I don&#039;t know his name.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Do you know Mrs Ncaca next to you?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>Yes I know her.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Did you hear about the incident that happened to her son.</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>No.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>You didn&#039;t know that Xolani her sonwas in the same place where your sister was shot?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>No I didn&#039;t hear because the Ncaca family are all over, so I didn&#039;t know whether he was her child or not. (side A of the tape stops recordingat this point)</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>(side B starts)</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>......on that day?</text>
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		<line number="50">
			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>Yes it was Mrs Nomvuka&#039;s child.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Do you know of any others?</text>
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		<line number="52">
			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>No I don&#039;t.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Is that all you want to say Mam?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>Yes that is all.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Do you have a request of this Commission?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>My request is for a tombstone and I want to be helped with my sister&#039;s children.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Is that all Mam?</text>
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		<line number="58">
			<speaker>MRS JANUARY</speaker>
			<text>Yes that is all.</text>
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		<line number="59">
			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Thank you Mrs January.</text>
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		<line number="60">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>MR SANDI</text>
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