hrvtrans HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS 1997-05-22 ERMELO 1 PINKIE E SIBIYA JB3497 https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=55084&t=&tab=hearings https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/hrvtrans/ermelo/7ermsibi.htm MR LEWIN MRS SIBIYA Yes. MR LEWIN Are you comfortable ? MRS SIBIYA I am comfortable, thanks. MR LEWIN DR RANDERA PINKIE SIBIYA (sworn states) DR RANDERA Thank you. MR LEWIN Thanks very much. I ask Tom Manthata to lead your evidence. MR MANTHATA Who is accompanying you Mrs Sibiya ? MRS SIBIYA This is my daughter. MR MANTHATA MRS SIBIYA MR MANTHATA Is he a student ? MRS SIBIYA Not anymore. MR MANTHATA Mrs Sibiya, are you working too ? MRS SIBIYA MR MANTHATA And Mr Sibiya ? What does Mr Sibiya do ? MRS SIBIYA MR MANTHATA But you have children who are attending school ? MRS SIBIYA Yes, I do. MR MANTHATA How many are they ? MRS SIBIYA MR MANTHATA I see. Mrs Sibiya, you are to tell us about your husband, Nbwenbwe who died. Can you please tell us that sad story. MRS SIBIYA MR MANTHATA Yes, Mrs Sibiya we are with you in re-living your pain. Just relax and take it slowly, coolly. MRS SIBIYA MR MANTHATA MRS SIBIYA MR MANTHATA These papers that you are talking about, the papers which were given by Meyer and Nkonjani, do you still have them on you ? MRS SIBIYA The papers which were given to me I enclosed with my statement to the Commission. Did you know the Incatha person that was buried that day ? Did you know the name of the person ? MRS SIBIYA MR MANTHATA How had Twala died ? Was he a victim of the violence of the day or what ? MRS SIBIYA He was ill. I think he died from his illness. All I know is that he was one of the top leaders of Inkatha in Ermelo. MR MANTHATA MRS SIBIYA MR MANTHATA MRS SIBIYA MR MANTHATA MRS SIBIYA He is twenty one years old. MR MANTHATA Twenty one. How many years is he out of school because of lack of maintenance ? MRS SIBIYA Two years. MR MANTHATA MRS SIBIYA He was in Standard nine. MR MANTHATA MRS SIBIYA MR MANTHATA Well, I have no further questions Ma Sibiya. Thanks. MR LEWIN Doctor Ally ? DR ALLY Mrs Sibiya you husband worked for Spoornet. MRS SIBIYA DR ALLY At the time that he died, how many years had he been working for Spoornet ? Do you have any idea ? MRS SIBIYA I think it was about fourteen years. DR ALLY MRS SIBIYA MRS SIBIYA Yes. DR ALLY In your statement that you gave to us there is a certificate, it looks like a Life Insurance Certificate, Old Mutual, a policy. Was this a policy that your husband had ? MRS SIBIYA DR ALLY Did Old Mutual pay you out on this policy ? MRS SIBIYA DR ALLY MRS SIBIYA DR ALLY Did you ever try to get any legal advice as to whether what Mr van Wyk did was legal, was proper ? Did you take up the matter with a lawyer or any Advice Center ? MRS SIBIYA DR ALLY Presently what is going on with this case ? Is anything still happening ? MRS SIBIYA DR ALLY What sum are we speaking about, this money from Old Mutual, how much money is it to you ? Were you told ? Do you know ? MRS SIBIYA After the death of my husband they gave us two thousand for burial purposes. They said there was R6 300 remaining as a balance. MR LEWIN