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	<type>HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION HEARINGS</type>
	<startdate>1996-06-18</startdate>
	<location>GEORGE</location>
	<day>1</day>
		<case>CT/05601</case>
		<victims>SELWYN BOTHA</victims>
	<testimony>CHRISTINE BOTHA [mother]</testimony>
	<nature>SHOT AND KILLED BY, KITSKONSTABELS</nature>
		<url>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=55100&amp;t=&amp;tab=hearings</url>
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			<text>MS BURTON</text>
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			<text>Ms Botha first, will you stand to take the oath please.</text>
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			<text>CHRISTINE BOTHA Duly sworn states</text>
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			<text>MS BURTON</text>
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			<text>Please sit down - Ms Leen Mei will you stand up.</text>
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			<text>LEEN MEI Duly sworn states</text>
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			<text>MS BURTON</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Thank you, please sit down - Dr Russell Ally is going to facilitate your  evidence.</text>
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			<text>DR ALLY</text>
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			<text>Good morning Ms Botha, thank you for coming, you going to speak about your son Selwyn Botha who was shot and killed on the 16th of January 1988.  </text>
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			<text> Afrikaans, wil jy Afrikaans praat, my Afrikaans is nie so  goed nie, maar ek sal - ek sal probeer.  So jy gaan oor u seun praat. </text>
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			<text>ME BOTHA</text>
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			<text>Ja.</text>
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			<text>DR ALLY</text>
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			<text>Selwyn Botha wat geskiet was op die 16de Januarie 1988.  Ek gaan nou vir u  vra om vir die Kommissie te vertel wat gebeur het met u seun.</text>
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			<text>ME BOTHA</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> En toe ek by die hospitaal kom, het ek eerste gestaan en met die Here gepraat om vir my sterkte te gee.  Ek is  daarna in die hospitaal in en ek kom by die hospitaal toe is my kind dood geskiet.  Ek het -  toe ek  vra dood geskiet, toe  weet ek van myself af nie, ek het teruggekom huis toe en ek sal ook nie, miskien nou baie vergeet, want dit is jare terug wat ek in my verklaring opgestel is, maar dit is blykbaar naby.</text>
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			<text> Na die kind begrawe is, daarna was dit  &#039;n hofsaak gewees, ek wil ook maar vandag aan die Waarheidskommissie kortliks vertel wat ek net weet wat die waarheid is.  En toe was ek in die hof  gesit vir vyf jaar, die gevoel waarvoor ek seer voel, omdat sy naam was nie genoem nie, en ek weet ook nie as dit  &#039;n gesamentlike saak was nie, maar daar is niemand vir hom aangehou  nie en ek weet ook nie wie het hom doodgeskiet nie.</text>
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			<text>DR ALLY</text>
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			<text>Was daar enige persoon met Selwyn daai dag toe hy geskiet was, wat miskien  &#039;n beter idee het wat gebeur het.</text>
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			<text>MS JAFTA</text>
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			<text>DR ALLY</text>
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			<text>En hoe oud was Selwyn toe hy gesterwe het - u seun hoe oud was hy?</text>
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			<text>MS JAFTA</text>
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			<text>Hy was 23 as ek dit korrek het.</text>
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			<text>DR ALLY</text>
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			<text>En het hy enige familie gehad van sy eie?</text>
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			<text>MS JAFTA</text>
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			<text>Hy het susters en broers.</text>
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			<text>DR ALLY</text>
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			<text>Geen kinders nie?</text>
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			<text>MS JAFTA</text>
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			<text>Nee hy het geen kind nie en hy was ook nie getroud nie, maar hy was my broodwinner.</text>
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			<text>DR ALLY</text>
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			<text>Was hy betrokke in enige politieke... [tussenbeide]</text>
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			<text>MS JAFTA</text>
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			<text>Hy was geen betrokke - geen politieke nie, hy was  &#039;n eenvoudige kind.</text>
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			<text>DR ALLY</text>
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			<text>So jy kan nie verstaan waarom hy geskiet was nie.</text>
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			<text>MS JAFTA</text>
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			<text>DR ALLY</text>
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			<text>U was geen verduideliking gegee nie, van die polisie of van enige iemand anders nie.</text>
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			<text>MS JAFTA</text>
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			<text>DR ALLY</text>
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			<text>MS JAFTA</text>
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			<text>DR ALLY</text>
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			<text>Baie dankie.</text>
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			<text>CHAIRPERSON</text>
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			<text>Any further questions - no - baie dankie ma.</text>
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			<text>DR ALLY</text>
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			<text>So mevrou wat is dit eintlik wat u hoop die Waarheidskommissie vir u kan doen, wat is dit wat u eintlik wil weet?</text>
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			<text>MS JAFTA</text>
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			<text>DR ALLY</text>
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			<text>Baie dankie mevrou.</text>
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