hrvtrans HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS 1997-06-09 EAST LONDON 1 MR MBONGENI NICHOLAS BAM EC1859/97 ELN https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=55227&t=&tab=hearings https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/hrvtrans/hrvel2/elnbam.htm REV FINCA MR MBONGENI NICHOLAS BAM (sworn states) REV XUNDU I will lead you with questions Mr Bam. Are you going to talk about your brother? MR BAM Yes. REV XUNDU Please tell us his story briefly. MR BAM REV XUNDU You said that it was in 1984. MR BAM REV XUNDU This man Phakamisa Gulwa, is he the one who told you your brother died in 1983? MR BAM Who? REV XUNDU Phakamisa Gulwa, is he the one who told you that your brother died in 1983? MR BAM Yes. REV XUNDU What did he say happened? MR BAM He said that they were shot in a firing squad and they were penalised. REV XUNDU Did you go to an ANC office to enquire about what exactly happened? MR BAM REV XUNDU Thank you. What would you like the Commission to do for you Sir? MR BAM REV XUNDU Did your brother have a child? MR BAM No, he did not have any children. REV XUNDU Is that all you request? MR BAM No, secondly I would like the ANC to come to my home to tell my mother officially what happened to my brother. REV XUNDU Is that all Sir? MR BAM Yes, that is all. REV XUNDU Thank you, I will hand over to the Chairperson and maybe my colleagues will ask you certain questions, thank you. REV FINCA Mr Sandi? MR SANDI Thank you Mr Chairperson. Mr Bam, where you here when Mrs Tonisi was giving evidence? MR BAM Yes. MR SANDI Did you hear when she said there were papers found in town? MR BAM Yes. MR SANDI Did you see those papers? MR BAM Yes, I do have a copy. MR SANDI Was your brother mentioned in those papers? MR BAM No, except that it was written that Sipho Bam died in a certain year in Angola. There is no further explanation. MR SANDI Thank you Mr Bam, thank you Mr Chairperson. REV FINCA Mr Bam, Mrs Koliti, is she here? MRS KOLITI Yes. REV FINCA What is going to be difficult is to answer to the situations where other political parties were involved because they denied their involvement but we will try to find some answers. We know that it is very painful that other children came back to support and work for their families after a long in exile. Others did not come back and some families do not know whether these children are alive or not. I hope that as the ANC promised in public that it will help us it will do so, so that we can find out these answers and so that we will be able to present before the President your requests regarding their bones. We thank you for being brave and coming forward to the Commission, thank you.