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	<type>HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS</type>
	<startdate>1997-06-09</startdate>
	<location>EAST LONDON</location>
	<day>1</day>
	<names>MR DAVID GOBIZEMBE</names>
	<case>EC733/96 ELN</case>
						<url>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=55232&amp;t=&amp;tab=hearings</url>
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		<line number="1">
			<speaker>REV XUNDU</speaker>
			<text>David Gobizembe?  Please stand up Sir.  Please take off your cap Sir.</text>
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		<line number="2">
			<speaker>MR DAVID GOBIZEMBE</speaker>
			<text>(sworn states)</text>
		</line>
		<line number="3">
			<speaker>REV FINCA</speaker>
			<text>June Crichton?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="4">
			<speaker>MS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>Mr Gobizembe, can you hear me?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="5">
			<speaker>MR GOBIZEMBE</speaker>
			<text>Yes, I can hear you.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="6">
			<speaker>MS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="7">
			<speaker>MR GOBIZEMBE</speaker>
			<text>Yes I was there.  I went to Zimbabwe in 1984 from Quatro in Angola.  I ran to Zimbabwe because I was ill-treated.  I was treated as a prisoner but I was in a struggle and I think I was wasting my time.</text>
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		<line number="8">
			<speaker>MS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>Alright, thank you that was the first question.  When you were in Zimbabwe and you got to Zimbabwe you were at a military camp, which one was that?  Which camp was it?</text>
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		<line number="9">
			<speaker>MR GOBIZEMBE</speaker>
			<text>I was in Queens Park in Zimbabwe.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="10">
			<speaker>MS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="11">
			<speaker>MR GOBIZEMBE</speaker>
			<text>The Commander of the Camp?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="12">
			<speaker>MS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="13">
			<speaker>MR GOBIZEMBE</speaker>
			<text>It was in Angola.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="14">
			<speaker>MS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="15">
			<speaker>MR GOBIZEMBE</speaker>
			<text>Yes that is correct.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="16">
			<speaker>MS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="17">
			<speaker>MR GOBIZEMBE</speaker>
			<text>I was with my friends when we saw our friends running and we discovered that there was shooting.   Joseph Sotetsi who was my best friend was sitting next to me but he ran away and jumped a fence.</text>
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		<line number="18">
			<speaker>MS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="19">
			<speaker>MR GOBIZEMBE</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="20">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="21">
			<speaker>REV FINCA</speaker>
			<text>Please keep quiet people.  Thank you.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="22">
			<speaker>MS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text></text>
		</line>
		<line number="23">
			<speaker>REV FINCA</speaker>
			<text>Mr Gobizembe, we will thank you together with other people.  You may step down for now.</text>
		</line>
	</lines>
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