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	<type>HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS</type>
	<startdate>1997-06-10</startdate>
	<location>EAST LONDON</location>
	<day>2</day>
	<names>MRS DOREEN ROUSSEAU</names>
	<case>EC52/96 ELN</case>
						<url>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=55239&amp;t=&amp;tab=hearings</url>
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			<speaker>REV XUNDU</speaker>
			<text>Can I ask you to stand whilst I swear you in Mrs Doreen Rousseau.</text>
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		<line number="2">
			<speaker>MRS DOREEN ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text>(Sworn states)</text>
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			<speaker>REV FINCA</speaker>
			<text>I welcome you Doreen Rousseau and June Crichton will direct your questions to you on behalf of the panel.</text>
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			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>Thank you Mr Chairperson.  Good morning Mrs Rousseau are you comfy?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text></text>
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			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="7">
			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="8">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text></text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text></text>
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			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="11">
			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text>Yes I still need treatment.</text>
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		<line number="12">
			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="13">
			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text>Not the foot, my hand.</text>
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		<line number="14">
			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>For your hand.</text>
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		<line number="15">
			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text>Yes, I have problems here at the wrist and my thumb.</text>
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		<line number="16">
			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="17">
			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="18">
			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>So how would you anticipate paying for surgery such as that?</text>
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		<line number="19">
			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="20">
			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>You say you lost your job, what kind of work were you doing?</text>
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		<line number="21">
			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text>I was working at the S.P.C.A. at the animal sanctuary.</text>
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		<line number="22">
			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>And you are not working now?</text>
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		<line number="23">
			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="24">
			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>You mentioned that your attitude towards the perpetrators is very similar to that of Mr Belling, would you like to explain on that any further or add to that?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text>Well I just feel that innocent people were shot and injured that night and I just feel that they should be found and brought to justice.</text>
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			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>So you are saying then that if you ...  Would you or would you not like to meet the perpetrators of this event?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text>To meet them?</text>
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		<line number="28">
			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>Yes.</text>
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		<line number="29">
			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text></text>
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			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>What are your expectations from the Commission Doreen?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text>Sorry?</text>
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			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>What are your expectations from the Commission?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text>Well I would like help financially and I would like help with a medical aid.</text>
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			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>Did you approach any attorney at all as Mr Belling did?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text></text>
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			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>Who was that?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text></text>
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			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text></text>
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			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text>I still have terrible nightmares.  I wake up in the night and I see this man standing in my doorway with a gun.</text>
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			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="41">
			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text>Yes, my medical aid has expired.</text>
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			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>So that would be something that you would wish to continue?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text>Yes, I would, yes please.</text>
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			<speaker>MISS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text></text>
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		<line number="45">
			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text></text>
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			<speaker>REV FINCA</speaker>
			<text>Mr Sandi?</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Thank you Mr Chairman.  Mrs Rousseau I notice that in your statement you make mention of a certain group with the name APLA.  Did you know about this group before the shooting?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text></text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>What did you know or hear about them after the shooting?</text>
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		<line number="50">
			<speaker>MRS ROUSSEAU</speaker>
			<text></text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Thank you.  Thank you Chairman.</text>
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			<speaker>REV FINCA</speaker>
			<text></text>
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