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<hearing xmlns="http://trc.saha.org.za/hearing/xml" schemaLocation="https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/export/hearingxml.xsd">
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	<type>HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS</type>
	<startdate>1997-06-09</startdate>
	<location>EAST LONDON</location>
	<day>1</day>
	<names>MRS LINDA SOPHIA TONISI</names>
	<case>EC1592/96 ELN</case>
						<url>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=55240&amp;t=&amp;tab=hearings</url>
	<originalhtml>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/hrvtrans/hrvel2/elntoni.htm</originalhtml>
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			<speaker>REV FINCA</speaker>
			<text>We now call Linda Sophia Tonisi.</text>
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		<line number="2">
			<speaker>REV XUNDU</speaker>
			<text>Please stand up Ma’am.</text>
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		<line number="3">
			<speaker>MRS LINDA SOPHIA TONISI</speaker>
			<text>(sworn states)</text>
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		<line number="4">
			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Thank you Mr Chairperson.   Mrs Tonisi you are here to talk about Masibulele Maxwell Tonisi, is that correct?</text>
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		<line number="5">
			<speaker>MRS TONISI</speaker>
			<text>Yes, that is correct.</text>
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		<line number="6">
			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>How are you related to him?</text>
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		<line number="7">
			<speaker>MRS TONISI</speaker>
			<text>He’s my son.</text>
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		<line number="8">
			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Your story is similar to the story already told by one of the witnesses.  If I remember clearly the witness before the one was there.  When did he go Angola?</text>
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		<line number="9">
			<speaker>MRS TONISI</speaker>
			<text>He left this country in 1981 but I’m not sure of the month.</text>
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		<line number="10">
			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Before going into details about his disappearance please tell us briefly about his lifestyle before he left the country especially concerning  the political activities.</text>
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		<line number="11">
			<speaker>MRS TONISI</speaker>
			<text>I don’t have knowledge about his politics but it is clear that he was a political activist because he died in Angola.  When he was involved in political activities in the township I wasn’t here because I was at work.</text>
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		<line number="12">
			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>How old was he at that time?</text>
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		<line number="13">
			<speaker>MRS TONISI</speaker>
			<text>He left the country in 1981.</text>
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		<line number="14">
			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Was he twenty three years old?</text>
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		<line number="15">
			<speaker>MRS TONISI</speaker>
			<text>He was born in 1961.</text>
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		<line number="16">
			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Was he working or was he still at school at the time?</text>
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		<line number="17">
			<speaker>MRS TONISI</speaker>
			<text>He was still at school but he had left school and got a job in West Bank.</text>
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		<line number="18">
			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Let us start in 1981 Mr Tonisi when he left the country.  What happened?</text>
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		<line number="19">
			<speaker>MRS TONISI</speaker>
			<text>He left the country in 1981 when he came back from work.  The days passed and he didn’t come back home.  Because I was sleeping in my employer’s home I didn’t know when he left.</text>
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		<line number="20">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> The following week on a Thursday my daughter said that the Special Branch Police from Cambridge came asking for Masibulele Tonisi, asking his whereabouts and they said they did not know where he was.  The Special Branch Police said that he was in Maseru and they asked for his parent they told them that I’m at work and I would come back during the weekend.  They came back the following week on Thursday and I was at home.  They asked me questions about him as to whether he was still at school, how old he was and where he was.   I said that I didn’t know and they told me he was in Maseru but they wanted him to come back to East London.  I asked why and they said that the Government was looking for him then I asked them where I am going to find him.  </text>
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		<line number="21">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> They then left that Thursday and the following week when I got home my children told me the police came with three vans and they searched the house saying they were looking for letters from Masibulele in Maseru.  My children asked them how they knew that he was writing letters because he didn’t write any letters to us.  The police would come now and then asking about his whereabouts they also asked for my employers address and they went there to ask the whereabouts of Masibulele.  We heard that he was in East Germany and then after a while we heard he was in Angola.</text>
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		<line number="22">
			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Excuse me Mrs Tonisi, at the time you heard he was in Germany,  Angola and all these places, who was giving you this information?</text>
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		<line number="23">
			<speaker>MRS TONISI</speaker>
			<text>We would hear from people in the township that they were in these different places.  We did not receive any letters from him and he never phoned us.</text>
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		<line number="24">
			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>He didn’t give a message to a person from outside?</text>
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		<line number="25">
			<speaker>MRS TONISI</speaker>
			<text>No, we did not even receive a letter from him but we read in a newspaper in 1984 that he had passed away.</text>
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			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>What newspaper was this?</text>
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		<line number="27">
			<speaker>MRS TONISI</speaker>
			<text>These papers at the taxi rank and they had lists as well as pictures of people who died in Angola.   This man saw Masibulele Tonisi in this list and because he knew our family he brought the list to us.  That’s how we found out that he died in Angola.  I then did nothing because nobody came to tell me that he died.</text>
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		<line number="28">
			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>You did not find out what happened in Angola and why he died?</text>
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		<line number="29">
			<speaker>MRS TONISI</speaker>
			<text>No, I didn’t find out.  That is why I came here.  I would like to know who killed him, who buried him and why because I’m his mother and I didn’t attend his funeral.</text>
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		<line number="30">
			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Is that your request Mrs Tonisi?</text>
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		<line number="31">
			<speaker>MRS TONISI</speaker>
			<text>Yes, I would like his bones to be exhumed.</text>
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		<line number="32">
			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Is that all Ma’am or do you have any other requests?</text>
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		<line number="33">
			<speaker>MRS TONISI</speaker>
			<text>No, I don’t have any other requests.</text>
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		<line number="34">
			<speaker>MR SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Thank you Mrs Tonisi, thank you Mr Chairperson.</text>
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		<line number="35">
			<speaker>REV FINCA</speaker>
			<text>Mrs Tonisi maybe you have already answered this question, did you have any contact with the ANC after it was unbanned to try and find out what happened?</text>
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		<line number="36">
			<speaker>MRS TONISI</speaker>
			<text>No.</text>
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		<line number="37">
			<speaker>REV FINCA</speaker>
			<text>You did not go to the ANC offices?</text>
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		<line number="38">
			<speaker>MRS TONISI</speaker>
			<text>No.</text>
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		<line number="39">
			<speaker>REV FINCA</speaker>
			<text>What was the reason, why did you not got to them and ask them so that you could find out what happened?</text>
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			<speaker>MRS TONISI</speaker>
			<text>I didn’t ask anything Sir.</text>
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		<line number="41">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>REV FINCA:   Thank you Ma’am.  Mrs Tonisi after the following two witnesses we will thank all of you at the same time.</text>
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