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	<type>HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION HEARINGS</type>
	<startdate>1996-10-08</startdate>
	<location>KAROO</location>
	<day>2</day>
		<case>CT/01301</case>
		<victims>SIMONI ZONO</victims>
	<testimony>NTSOKOLO ZONO</testimony>
	<nature>SHOT &amp; KILLED BY POLICE</nature>
		<url>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=55343&amp;t=&amp;tab=hearings</url>
	<originalhtml>https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/hrvtrans/karoo/ct01301.htm</originalhtml>
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			<text>MS BURTON</text>
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			<text>Good morning Mr Zono - can you hear me well.</text>
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			<text>MR ZONO</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Yes I can hear you.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>MS BURTON</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Please will you stand to take the oath.</text>
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			<text>JAMES NTSOKOLO ZONO Duly sworn states</text>
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			<text>MS BURTON</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Thank you very much.  Mr Zono you live in New Brighton in Noupoort is that right?</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>MR ZONO</text>
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			<text></text>
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			<text>MS BURTON</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>You have come to tell us about the death of your brother - Simon Booi Zono.</text>
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			<text>MR ZONO</text>
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			<text></text>
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			<text>MS BURTON</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Please will you tell us what happened on that day in September 1985.</text>
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			<text>MR ZONO</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> Yes he was a policeman.  </text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>MS BURTON</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>[indistinct] the people who went to the house, go speak to him.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>MR ZONO</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Nomalanga called them so that they can chase away Booi because the policeman were not allowed in the location.  </text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>MS BURTON</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>I see thank you - please go on.</text>
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			<text>MR ZONO</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>He shot my brother and he covered him with a zinc and he went to the police station - he came back with a van and he took my brother with the van to the mortuary.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> And I was working for the Municipality at that time and they told me there that my brother is dead and he told me that I was needed at home - I was called at home.  And when I arrived at home there were many people at home and they told me that my brother was shot - he has passed away.  They told me  my brother has passed away.</text>
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			<text>MS BURTON</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Thank you Mr Zono - do you know if other people were injured at that time?</text>
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			<text>MR ZONO</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Yes there was one but he is not here in the hall - his surname is Kebane he is in Johannesburg now.  The bullet was taken out in Bloemfontein from his body.  And the police took him to see my brother who has passed away.</text>
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			<text>MS BURTON</text>
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			<text>MR ZONO</text>
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			<text>MS BURTON</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>[indistinct] that we can inform you that an inquest was held and Constable Booi Jack did make a statement and explained that he was hiding from a group of young people and then he decided to fire at them and that is how your brother was killed.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> Is - do you know where constable Booi Jack is now?</text>
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			<text>MR ZONO</text>
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			<text>MS BURTON</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>[indistinct] in Noupoort anymore.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>MR ZONO</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>No he left Noupoort a long time ago.</text>
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			<text>MS BURTON</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>[indistinct] the sad lost that you and your family experienced Mr Zone.  I am just going to ask my colleagues if they want to ask you any other questions.  </text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>ADV POTGIETER</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Mr Zono did you brother - later brother leave any children behind?</text>
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			<text>MR ZONO</text>
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			<text>ADV POTGIETER</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Would you like to tell us what happened at the funeral were there any restrictions at the funeral.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>MR ZONO</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>There were many policeman monitoring the funeral.  </text>
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			<text>ADV POTGIETER</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>And they - were they placing any restrictions on the funeral telling you what you should be doing.</text>
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			<text>MR ZONO</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>They told us that people were not suppose to be over 50 - people who attended the funeral.</text>
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			<text>ADV POTGIETER</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>[indistinct] thank  you very much.</text>
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			<text>MS BURTON</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Mr Zono was your brother a leader in any community organisation?</text>
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			<text>MR ZONO</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>No he was not a leader.</text>
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			<text>MS BURTON</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>He just happened to be with that group of people who went to gather around the house where this constable was hiding.  </text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>MR ZONO</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Ja he just happened to be there.</text>
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			<text>MS BURTON</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Is there anything else that you would like to say to the Truth Commission.</text>
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			<text>MR ZONO</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>No there is nothing else.</text>
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			<text>MS BURTON</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Let me just thank you very much for coming and we once again offer our sympathy to you and to your family for the loss of your brother.  Thank you very much.</text>
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