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	<type>HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION HEARINGS</type>
	<startdate>1996-06-10</startdate>
	<location>KIMBERLEY</location>
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			<text>CASE NO: CT/00644</text>
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			<text>VICTIM: ALAKIE KOOPMAN</text>
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			<text>VIOLATION: DIED AS A RESULT OF HOUSE BEING</text>
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			<text>TEAR GASSED</text>
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			<text>TESTIMONY BY: SIENA KOOPMAN</text>
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			<text>ADV POTGIETER</text>
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			<text>MS KOOPMAN</text>
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			<text>Ja.</text>
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			<text>ADV POTGIETER</text>
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			<text>Now just before we deal with that, is it correct you are also from Ditloung in Olifantshoek.</text>
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			<text>MS KOOPMAN</text>
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			<text>Ja.</text>
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			<text>ADV POTGIETER</text>
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			<text>Now the tear gassing incident that you will testify about, can you remember when that happened?</text>
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			<text>ME KOOPMAN</text>
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			<text>Ek verstaan mos nie Engels nie - is Engels wat hulle praat, ek verstaan mos nie.</text>
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			<text>ADV POTGIETER</text>
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			<text>ME KOOPMAN</text>
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			<text>Ja.</text>
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			<text>ADV POTGIETER</text>
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			<text>Kan u vir ons kortliks verduidelik - vertel wat gebeur het.</text>
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			<text>ME KOOPMAN</text>
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			<text>Dit was 1993 - 1993 - 16 June,  toe was dit getoi-toi daai oggend.  En toe het die polisie gebegin skiet om die mense uitmekaar uit te maak en toe het hulle begin weghol daar om die rondte waar ek bly.  Dis daar waar die hele stoom gewees het, en hulle het begin skiet net daarso -  en hulle het aanhou net geskiet daar - geskiet daar op die huis -  daai - die doppe het geval daar bo-op die huis en rondom die huis - langsaan die huis omdat die - die span rondom die huis gehol - gehardloop het.</text>
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			<text>ME WILDSCHUT</text>
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			<text>Iets wat daar gebeur het, weet u wie geskiet het?</text>
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			<text>ONBEKEND</text>
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			<text>ME KOOPMAN</text>
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			<text>ADV POTGIETER</text>
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			<text>ME KOOPMAN</text>
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			<text>ADV POTGIETER</text>
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			<text>ME KOOPMAN</text>
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			<text>ADV POTGIETER</text>
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			<text>En daar die doppe wat u van praat wat u gekry het waar was dit gewees, was dit daar by die huis of waar was dit?</text>
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			<text>ME KOOPMAN</text>
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			<text>Is dit nou die dokter - ja die doppe daar by die huis.</text>
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			<text>ADV POTGIETER</text>
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			<text>Is dit op die dak of waar was dit?</text>
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			<text>ME KOOPMAN</text>
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			<text>Die anders het op die dak geval - so het hulle geskiet bo-op die dak het die ander doppe geval - klomp op die dak en die anders het sommer hier rondom die huis geval - opgetel, maar ek weet nie wat het geword daarvan van daai doppe nie.</text>
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			<text>ADV POTGIETER</text>
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			<text>Ken u van die polisie wat geskiet het daar die dag met die traangas.</text>
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			<text>ME KOOPMAN</text>
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			<text>Ek ken nie een van hulle nie, ek ken hulle nie, want hulle was klomp gewees en daar was nie nou - ek het nie kan gekyk wie goed is dit die nie, want ek het die kindertjies ook hier gebeskerm.</text>
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			<text>ADV POTGIETER</text>
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			<text>ME KOOPMAN</text>
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			<text>ADV POTGIETER</text>
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			<text>Okay baie dankie mevrou.</text>
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			<text>VOORSITTER</text>
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