hrvtrans HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS 1997-05-14 KING WILLIAM’S TOWN 3 ZANIWE MFONO EC1440/96SBR https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=55486&t=&tab=hearings https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/hrvtrans/kwtown/kommfon.htm CHAIRPERSON Zanyiwe Mfono, Nobesuthu Patience Mbelekana. Are you going to take their names ? Are you going to give evidence ? N DYEVANA I’m here with my mother. Neliswa Dyevana is my name. CHAIRPERSON Mpulwana Sithabathaba, are you going to give evidence ? M SITHABATHABA Yes CHAIRPERSON Thank you. ZANIWE MFONO (sworn states) NENESA DYEVANA (sworn states) NOBE SUTHU PATIENCE MBELEKANA (sworn states) NOMBUKWANE SITHABATHABA (sworn states). CHAIRPERSON Ms Maya. MS MAYA Thank you, Mr Chairperson. Mrs Mfono. We’ll start with you. The evidence that you are going to give the Commission to-day is about Kenneth Masibonge, who was shot in 1987 when he was 17 years of age. Is that so ? Was Kenneth you child ? MRS MFONO Yes. MS MAYA Could you tell us the story please Ma’am. MRS MFONO I just heard bullet sounds, twice. I did not take them seriously, it was a night. I slept. The next morning, the other kids said I must go ask where Masibonge had been arrested. I asked where he was. The said that the police had taken him. I went to the police station, told them I was looking for Masibonge. The police said he was not there. I went to the hospital. It was at Frere Hospital. I found out then that he was there at the hospital. After that, the sister went to visit at Frere and found him there. I was asked to go and sign some documents because he was going to be transferred to Cape Town. He was shot at the side. He was going to be taken to Cape Town. I went and signed the documents. He came back from Cape Town in June the same year. He could not do anything for himself. He was paralyzed. He cannot do anything for himself. The police came and fetched him. He was asked to come to court, to appear in court, both with the other kids ... MS MAYA Excuse me, Ma’am. Why was he shot ? Do you know ? MRS MFONO No, I do not know. MS MAYA Was he a member of a political organization ? MRS MFONO He was a school child. MS MAYA Were there problems at school at the time, do you remember ? MRS MFONO There were no problems. I think the other child would tell a better story, he’s here. MS MAYA Therefore, you never got details as to why your child was shot, but do you know who shot him ? MRS MFONO He was shot by a policeman. MS MAYA Do you know which policeman is this ? MRS MFONO Yes. MS MAYA It’s Lokhwe, Lunga Lokhwe. MS MAYA Did you give in a statement, or was Lokhwe charged ? MRS MFONO I went to an attorney. My witness is here. This attorney represented this child and they were innocent. MS MAYA What is he using now, what was he using went he went to the, to court. MRS MFONO He was using a wheelchair. MS MAYA So you don’t know what the case was all about ? MRS MFONO No, I don’t know. MS MAYA We will ask for the witness’s name. What is his name ? MRS MFONO Mlandeli. MS MAYA We will talk to him. Therefore, Ma’am, the fact that your son was injured, there was no case about that. MRS MFONO No. MS MAYA Would you, do you have any requests ? MRS MFONO Yes. MS MAYA What are they ? MRS MFONO My child is still at school, I’m on pension, I suffer from high blood pressure. MS MAYA Masibonge eventually passed away. What happened ? MRS MFONO He used his wheelchair for four years. After that, as he was paralyzed, his bottom started rotting. His knees started protruding, the bones and around his ribs. He was sent to Frere Hospital and they amputated him and he passed away in operation. MS MAYA Thank you, Ma’am. Your requests ? MRS MFONO I have a child at school. MS MAYA How old ? When was he born ? MRS MFONO In 1982. MS MAYA What standard is he doing ? MRS MFONO Standard 7. MS MAYA Was Masibonge your oldest, eldest child ? MRS MFONO No, there’s one older than him. MS MAYA He’s your only child at school, this one you’re talking about ? MRS MFONO Yes. No, I have no other requests. MS MAYA I will hand you over to the Chairperson when I’m through with the other lady. Thank you. MS MAYA Ma’am, how do you pronounce your surname ? MRS MBELEKANA Mbelekana. MS MAYA Mbelekana. MRS MBELEKANA Yes. MS MAYA Mrs Mbelekana, you’re going to talk about Mbulelo Archie who was your son, who was shot at Komga. Is that so ? MRS MBELEKANA Yes, he was stabbed on the 28th of November 1993, yes. MS MAYA In your statement you give detail that he was killed by people who were members of two organizations. Could you give us the details ? MRS MBELEKANA First of all, I was at work in Tamarah. Apparently, on the Thursday he’d been elected as the ANC Chairperson. On the Sunday he was going to take his position, take up his position as the Chairperson. Apparently, at about 3 a.m. on Sunday, somebody knocked on his window. He got out. When he got out, there were two doors, he used the back door. By the steps he came across these people who stabbed him. I was taken from Keimouth and the corps was already taken. I was told that they stabbed him to death and left him to die. MS MAYA Do you know who it is that warned him ? MRS MBELEKANA Unkoluleko Xhani. MS MAYA You don’t remember his surname ? MRS MBELEKANA Unkoluleko Unxholi. MS MAYA Is he still around ? MRS MBELEKANA Yes. MS MAYA In Komga ? MRS MBELEKANA Yes. MS MAYA Was Archie a member of political organization, or what was the name of the organization ? MRS MBELEKANA ANC. MS MAYA Did you find out who it is that murdered him ? MRS MBELEKANA No, this is why I’m here, I want to know. MS MAYA Did you talk to the person who came to warn him. MRS MBELEKANA No. There were investigators. I don’t know what happened eventually. MS MAYA Neliswa, would you like to add something ? Thank you, Mr Chairperson. MS DYEVANA Mbulelo passed away on Sunday. It was about 9 a.m. When I got up I went to get some water. I stay with my grandmother and aunt. A child asked if I knew that Mbulelo had passed away. I said no, the last time I had seen him was the previous night. When I got to the gate there were a whole lot of people. I asked if it’s true that he’d died. Young children answered me and told me that yes, he’d passed away and he was left by the guava tree. I went to church, my father told me exactly what happened. Apparently, he’d been with his girlfriend. What happened is, when the person knocked, the girlfriend hid herself under the bed. I asked how she’d hidden herself under the bed because you cannot hide yourself under a double bed base and I asked why it is that she should hide herself. MS MAYA Did she perhaps think that it’s another of his girlfriends ? MS DVENAYA I said, no, it’s impossible. Investigators came, pictures were taken. Mrs Mbelekana came back from Keimouth to work back at home. The investigators said that , they know who the perpetrators are. I asked, why they are not arresting anyone. This investigator then said, they investigated and said he went to the Prosecutor wanting a warrant of arrest. We were hopeful. Nothing ever came of it, to this day. MS MAYA Is that all you have to say? MS DYEVANA Yes. MS MAYA Mr Sithabathaba, would you like to add something but apparently, you are the uncle to the deceased ? When you heard that something had happened, what did you find out ? MR SITHABATHABA Somebody came and knocked and said Mbulelo had passed away. I went and indeed he’d was, he’d already passed on. MS MAYA You never found out who it is that murdered him ? MR SITHABATHABA No. MS MAYA In our statement, Mbulelo was murdered by ANC members as he was going to be the new executive. These people together with other members of yet another organization. Could you tell us more about this ? MR SITHABATHABA On the 11th of January, Mr Zola, an investigator came, told me that he’d gotten the people. They were ANC members and PAC members. MS MAYA Therefore, it is members of the two organizations ? MR SITHABATHABA Yes, ANC and PAC. MS MAYA Did you hear of any reasons ? MR SITHABATHABA No. This is what we’d also like to know. MS MAYA Was this a norm, that when such things would happen, these organizations would come together and attack. MR SITHABATHABA I’d never heard of it before. MS MAYA Thank you. Do you have requests to the Commission ? MRS MBELEKANA First of all, I request that the case be investigated and I want to know who killed Mbulelo, he’s, he was my only child. The father died in 1982. Secondly, Mbulelo passed away. I’m alone, I need a house to be built. MS MAYA Was Mbulelo your only child ? MRS MBELEKANA Yes, he was. MS MAYA You don’t have a child .. MRS MBELEKANA No. There’s a ten year old who’s my grand-niece from Transkei. MS MAYA Thank you, I’ll hand you over to the Chairperson. CHAIRPERSON I thank you all for telling us about these incidents. We know Komga velly, very well especially in connection with battles that took place there. Even though it is difficult for you to be comforted. However, a lot of work was done in Komga and around the border region. We will look closely at your requests. If it was up to us, we would meet all these needs, but we depend on the President to see what he can do, but in the meantime, we thank you. Please step down.