hrvtrans HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS 1997-05-14 3 THABI NGANGE EC0402/96CCK https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/hearing.php?id=55487&t=&tab=hearings https://sabctrc.saha.org.za/originals/hrvtrans/kwtown/komngang.htm THABI NGANGE (sworn states) CHAIRPERSON Thank you, you may sit down. We welcome you Mrs Thabi Ngange. We apologize for mis-pronouncing your name. MRS NGANGE The people who wrote our statement made that mistake. CHAIRPERSON Please put on earphones because you will be asked in English. MRS CRICHTON Are you hearing me now, Mrs Ngange ? You can speak Xhosa. Can you hear me ? MRS NGANGE Yes, I can hear you. MRS CRICHTON Inisi Xhondo you spoke about the pain that this country has experienced and especially this area and you have come to tell us about the pain of the incident that happened in your family. To your sister and to your mother. Now, first of all, would you tell me, where you living at home at the time that this happened ? MRS NGANGE We were coming from work. We were working for Kenny. We were coming from work at about half past five. When we were about to arrive at home, we MRS CRICHTON MRS NGANGE It was Ndodogu. MRS CRICHTON Now, can you tell me what actually happened on that day, on the, on the 14th, what actually happened. How did it culminate. What happened to your sister and to your mother ? MR SANDI MRS NGANGE MR SANDI Please listen Mamgwevu. I have a question for you. Where there political organizations in the community, UDF, ADM or ANC ? MRS NGANGE There was one organization, it was ANC. MR SANDI Was it a conflict, was there a conflict amongst ANC members ? MRS NGANGE No, there was no conflict. MR SANDI This issue, is it politically motivated, or what ? MRS NGANGE Please repeat. MR SANDI MRS NGANGE No. MR SANDI This was just a crime against your family. A crime from people who were not disciplined ? Can you hear me ? MRS NGANGE Yes. MR SANDI CHAIRPERSON Mrs Ngange, this is a very difficult case for us but what we would like to know is that in your statement you said that the people who necklaced, or who killed Nomriti and Funeka were comrades. MRS NGANGE Yes, they were comrades. CHAIRPERSON What do you mean by saying that they were comrades ? Were they leaders of ANC. MRS NGANGE They were people from the ANC, we were together in this organization. CHAIRPERSON Were they leaders ? MRS NGANGE Yes, they were leaders. CHAIRPERSON MRS NGANGE Yes, there was a court case. CHAIRPERSON Where ? MRS NGANGE In East London. CHAIRPERSON What was the outcome of the court case ? MRS NGANGE I did not hear about their sentences but when I was, when I went back home, I heard that they were sentenced, but I did not hear for how long. CHAIRPERSON You, you were not told for how long were they sentenced ? MRS NGANGE No. CHAIRPERSON Were they sentenced for life, or what ? MRS NGANGE They were sentenced and then they were released again. CHAIRPERSON Did they pay money ? MRS NGANGE CHAIRPERSON What is your request, Mrs Ngange, to the Commission, what would you like the Commission to do for you concerning this incident ? MRS NGANGE CHAIRPERSON MRS NGANGE Goodman Tshemese was looked after by my father, their father was working away. He was not looking after them but they said that my mother was a witch and they killed her. They were staying in my home. My father was supporting them. CHAIRPERSON Do you know them , do you see them now ? MRS NGANGE Goodman is here. There he is. CHAIRPERSON