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	<type>HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS</type>
	<startdate>1997-03-25</startdate>
	<location>LUSIKISIKI</location>
	<day>2</day>
	<names>THEOPHILUS NDLOVU BONGOZA</names>
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			<speaker>THEOPHILUS NDLOVU BONGOZA</speaker>
			<text>(sworn states)</text>
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		<line number="2">
			<speaker>MS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>Can you hear me Mr Bongoza?</text>
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		<line number="3">
			<speaker>MR BONGOZA</speaker>
			<text>Yes I can hear you.</text>
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		<line number="4">
			<speaker>MS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>Now you are here today to talk about yourself.  You were arrested by the police.  What was the charge for that arrest?</text>
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		<line number="5">
			<speaker>MR BONGOZA</speaker>
			<text>I was arrested because I was a member of Congo.</text>
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		<line number="6">
			<speaker>MS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>In your statement it says that there was a person by the name of Dyasi and his house that was burnt.  Was there any connection to your arrest?</text>
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		<line number="7">
			<speaker>MR BONGOZA</speaker>
			<text>Yes, that name was mentioned.</text>
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		<line number="8">
			<speaker>MS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>When you were arrested for the second time, you were taken to Umzimkhulu and there you had interrogation for five months.  During that time what was your experience?</text>
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			<speaker>MR BONGOZA</speaker>
			<text>When I was first arrested they brought me to Lusikisiki and I was arrested alone.   And then they transferred me Umzimkhulu for five months.  I was not ill-treated in Umzimkhulu because when I arrived there I was praying, I was singing church songs.   And the police, because I was behaving well they did not ill-treat me, but the food was bad.   We used to eat beans which were not healthy.</text>
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		<line number="10">
			<speaker>MS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>Thank you for that testimony.   In your requests to the Commission you make a statement about</text>
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		<line number="11">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Nquzo mountain and your concern for that mountain.   Will you explain what your concern is please?</text>
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		<line number="12">
			<speaker>MR BONGOZA</speaker>
			<text>About the Nquzo mountain, the people who died there and who were buried there and the way they died.   When I look at that mountain I can see that it is not well looked after.   I would like the Commission to build a police station there so that mountain can be looked after.   If the Commission would help to build a police station in that place I would be glad.</text>
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		<line number="13">
			<speaker>MS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>Mr Bongoza there have been people who have asked for a memorial to be put there.  Would you agree with that?</text>
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			<speaker>MR BONGOZA</speaker>
			<text>Yes I would agree with that, but that will not  help much.   That is why I am asking for the Commission to build a police station there, so that the police would look after that place.   If there will be a monument there, it will not have good meaning.</text>
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			<speaker>MS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>Mr Bongoza, one last question, I want to take you back a little bit to Kokstad when you were on trial.   You were represented by Mr Swart.  Where is he now?</text>
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			<speaker>MR BONGOZA</speaker>
			<text>I do not know where Mr Swart is because since I was released I never contacted him, because when I was released I told myself that I will not agree with the Government and I was scared of the Government.</text>
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			<speaker>MR BONGOZA</speaker>
			<text>Thank you Mr Bongoza.  Is there anything else you wish to say to the Commission?</text>
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			<speaker>MR BONGOZA</speaker>
			<text>Yes I have another request to the Commission that I sold most of my cattle to pay for Mr Swart.  I would like the Commission to build a church in my area because it was only God who helped me to be released.  I would like the Commission to build a church.  That is my request.</text>
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			<speaker>MS CRICHTON</speaker>
			<text>Thank you Mr Bongoza.</text>
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