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	<type>HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS</type>
	<startdate>1997-03-25</startdate>
	<location>LUSIKISIKI</location>
	<day>2 LUSIKISIKI</day>
	<names>NQEKE FANI</names>
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			<speaker>MS FANI</speaker>
			<text>(sworn states)</text>
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		<line number="2">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Mrs Fani your full names please.</text>
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		<line number="3">
			<speaker>MS FANI</speaker>
			<text>Nqeke Fani.</text>
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		<line number="4">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>You are going to tell us what happened to you at the time of this incident.  Can you please tell us what happened to you Mrs Fani?</text>
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		<line number="5">
			<speaker>MS FANI</speaker>
			<text>My arm was broken and my back was also affected.</text>
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		<line number="6">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Were these people looking for your husband who is sitting next to you now?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="7">
			<speaker>MS FANI</speaker>
			<text>Yes.  His name is Mlandelwa Fani.</text>
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		<line number="8">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>The police were looking for him because he was a member of Congo?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="9">
			<speaker>MS FANI</speaker>
			<text>Yes they were looking for him because he was a member of Congo.</text>
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		<line number="10">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Let us talk about you Mrs Fani.  You said that when the police arrested you they beat you up.</text>
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		<line number="11">
			<speaker>MS FANI</speaker>
			<text>Yes.</text>
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		<line number="12">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Can you please tell us fully how the police would beat you up?</text>
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		<line number="13">
			<speaker>MS FANI</speaker>
			<text>Yes I can tell you.   They would beat me with rifles and kick me and my back was affected because of that.   And they would beat me with the back of a rifle on my shoulders.</text>
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		<line number="14">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>At the time that they were beating you, were they looking for your husband?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="15">
			<speaker>MS FANI</speaker>
			<text>Yes but he was not there at the time. He ran away.</text>
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		<line number="16">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Do you have a request other than the ones that you have mentioned in your statement to this Commission?</text>
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		<line number="17">
			<speaker>MS FANI</speaker>
			<text>No.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="18">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Is that all that you want to say Mrs Fani.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="19">
			<speaker>MS FANI</speaker>
			<text>Can you please repeat.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="20">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Is that all you want to say Mrs Fani.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="21">
			<speaker>MS FANI</speaker>
			<text>Yes that is all.  My back was affected.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="22">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>We will now go to Mr Fani?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="23">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> Mr Fani, Mrs Fani has already told us that you were arrested at home and you were beaten up.   The police were looking for you.   Did they eventually find you Mr Fani?</text>
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		<line number="24">
			<speaker>MR FANI</speaker>
			<text>I cannot hear you clearly Sir.</text>
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		<line number="25">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Did the police find your Mr Fani, as they were looking for you at the time?</text>
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		<line number="26">
			<speaker>MR FANI</speaker>
			<text>Yes they found me.</text>
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		<line number="27">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>What happened to you when you were arrested by the police?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="28">
			<speaker>MR FANI</speaker>
			<text>They were beating me up.  They slapped me in my face and I cannot see.  I am blind now and my ears cannot hear properly.  And when I was arrested they killed my livestock, my cattle and sheep and my horses.  I do not know who killed them but they were killed during this incident.</text>
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		<line number="29">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>At the time of this incident, was it after the Nonqulana incident, when people were killed?</text>
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		<line number="30">
			<speaker>MR FANI</speaker>
			<text>Are you speaking about Nonqulana?</text>
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		<line number="31">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Yes.</text>
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		<line number="32">
			<speaker>MR FANI</speaker>
			<text>Yes, it was after the Nonqulana incident, after the people were shot there.</text>
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		<line number="33">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>When the police were beating you up, were you</text>
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		<line number="34">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>affected or were you injured in your body?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="35">
			<speaker>MR FANI</speaker>
			<text>Yes, I was injured.    I went to hospital.</text>
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		<line number="36">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>How were you injured?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="37">
			<speaker>MR FANI</speaker>
			<text>I was stabbed in my chest.</text>
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		<line number="38">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Were you stabbed in detention?</text>
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		<line number="39">
			<speaker>MR FANI</speaker>
			<text>At home, when they were arresting me at home.</text>
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		<line number="40">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>I was trying to run away into the bushes.  </text>
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		<line number="41">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>The requests that are written in your documents, do you have other requests that you would like to add?   These requests will be taken to the President when we give him our report.  Do you have other requests?</text>
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		<line number="42">
			<speaker>MR FANI</speaker>
			<text>I have them.</text>
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		<line number="43">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Will you tell us about them please?</text>
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		<line number="44">
			<speaker>MR FANI</speaker>
			<text>I was terribly injured.  They burnt down everything that I had endeavoured to build, even when I was injured.</text>
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		<line number="45">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Is there a request Sir that you would like to give to the Commission.</text>
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		<line number="46">
			<speaker>MR FANI</speaker>
			<text>When I had my livestock I was well, I lived well.  If there is any way in which you could help, would you please do that.</text>
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		<line number="47">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Thank you Mr Fani.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="48">
			<speaker>MR FANI</speaker>
			<text>Thank you Mr Chairperson.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="49">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Rev Xundu would you please give the microphone to Mrs Fani?</text>
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		<line number="50">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>You see that in your husband&#039;s statement his house and his livestock were burnt down.   Who burnt down your house and your livestock?</text>
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		<line number="51">
			<speaker>MRS FANI</speaker>
			<text>I do not know.  It was at night.   The house was burnt down at night.   My livestock would die now and again, apparently poisoned, or stolen.</text>
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		<line number="52">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Did anyone in the village have an idea of what happened.</text>
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		<line number="53">
			<speaker>MRS FANI</speaker>
			<text>No.</text>
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		<line number="54">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Thank you.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="55">
			<speaker>MRS FANI</speaker>
			<text>Thank you.</text>
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