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	<type>HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS</type>
	<startdate>1997-03-25</startdate>
	<location>LUSIKISIKI</location>
	<day>2 LUSIKISIKI</day>
	<names>NONI MABHALA GCABA</names>
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			<speaker>NONI MABHALA GCABA</speaker>
			<text>(sworn states)</text>
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		<line number="2">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>Good afternoon Mrs Gcaba.</text>
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		<line number="3">
			<speaker>MS GCABA</speaker>
			<text>Good afternoon.</text>
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		<line number="4">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>You are going to talk about James Notununu who has passed away.   Is that so?</text>
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		<line number="5">
			<speaker>MS GCABA</speaker>
			<text>Yes.</text>
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		<line number="6">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>How are you related?</text>
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		<line number="7">
			<speaker>MS GCABA</speaker>
			<text>He is my father.</text>
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		<line number="8">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>You say that he was detained and tortured.  Do you have any idea how he was tortured?</text>
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		<line number="9">
			<speaker>MS GCABA</speaker>
			<text>Yes, he came back and told us that they beat him up on his genitals.  They were tortured in all sorts of ways.</text>
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		<line number="10">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>Where was he detained?</text>
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		<line number="11">
			<speaker>MS GCABA</speaker>
			<text>Where Mandela was detained.</text>
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		<line number="12">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>Was this in Robben Island?</text>
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		<line number="13">
			<speaker>MS GCABA</speaker>
			<text>Yes.</text>
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		<line number="14">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>Until when was he detained?</text>
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		<line number="15">
			<speaker>MS GCABA</speaker>
			<text>It was from 1960 to 1961.  He was very ill.  He was taken to Clarewood and King Edward Hospitals in Durban.  He came back eventually and he passed away at home.</text>
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			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>What was he ill of?</text>
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			<speaker>MS GCABA</speaker>
			<text>He said that he had been given poison to drink.  It affected his lungs.   His one lung collapsed.  The other lung collapsed too and that was when he passed away.</text>
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			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> He came back in 1961.  Then I think he passed away in 1963.</text>
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		<line number="19">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>According to your statement he and other detainees were given poison to drink and they all passed away.</text>
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			<speaker>MS GCABA</speaker>
			<text>Yes, a man from the Mangatywa family, Skunana, they all drank poison and eventually passed away.</text>
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			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>Is there anything else that you would like to add?</text>
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			<speaker>MS GCABA</speaker>
			<text>Well, my mother died.  She had a heart failure and a stroke and passed away.   Because of the whole situation we were left as orphans.</text>
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			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>When did your mother die?</text>
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		<line number="24">
			<speaker>MS GCABA</speaker>
			<text>In 1985.</text>
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		<line number="25">
			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>Do you have requests.</text>
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		<line number="26">
			<speaker>MS GCABA</speaker>
			<text>My parents were buried in separate places Their request before they passed away is that they be buried in the same place.  It means that my father would be exhumed and come and be buried next to my mother.</text>
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			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>Where is you father buried?</text>
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		<line number="28">
			<speaker>MS GCABA</speaker>
			<text>In Jusana and my mother at my brother&#039;s place in Mcobothini.</text>
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			<speaker>MS MAYA</speaker>
			<text>Thank you madam.  Is that all?</text>
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		<line number="30">
			<speaker>MS GCABA</speaker>
			<text>Yes thank you.</text>
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