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	<type>HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUBMISSIONS QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS</type>
	<startdate>1997-03-25</startdate>
	<location>LUSIKISIKI</location>
	<day>2 LUSIKISIKI</day>
	<names>AGNESS MAMSARENI MAGAWANA</names>
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			<speaker>AGNESS MAMSARENI MAGAWANA</speaker>
			<text>(sworn states)</text>
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		<line number="2">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>You are going to talk about Barnabas Mhlati Magawana.   How are you related?</text>
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		<line number="3">
			<speaker>MS MAGAWANA</speaker>
			<text>He was my elder brother.</text>
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		<line number="4">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>You say that he was executed in Pretoria.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="5">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text>Why was he hanged?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="6">
			<speaker>MS MAGAWANA</speaker>
			<text>They came to look for him at his home.  He was not here.   Only the wife was there.  They then ordered the wife to leave.  The wife left and went back to her own home.</text>
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		<line number="7">
			<speaker></speaker>
			<text> On the Wednesday he went to look for his wife.  That is the day that they detained him.   </text>
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		<line number="8">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>So he was detained at his wife&#039;s home?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="9">
			<speaker>MS MAGAWANA</speaker>
			<text>Yes.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="10">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Was he detained because he was an ANC member?</text>
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		<line number="11">
			<speaker>MS MAGAWANA</speaker>
			<text>Yes.  He would open the meeting with prayer when there was a Congo meeting.</text>
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		<line number="12">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>You say that there was a court case in Kokstad.  Was there a court case in Kokstad?</text>
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		<line number="13">
			<speaker>MS MAGAWANA</speaker>
			<text>I do not remember that...  Yes he was detained Bizana, then Kokstad, then Pretoria.</text>
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		<line number="14">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Who was he with?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="15">
			<speaker>MS MAGAWANA</speaker>
			<text>Douglas as well.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="16">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>What were they accused of?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="17">
			<speaker>MS MAGAWANA</speaker>
			<text>Apparently they had killed a Chief.</text>
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		<line number="18">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>What was the name of the Chief?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="19">
			<speaker>MS MAGAWANA</speaker>
			<text>Chief Stanford.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="20">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Did you see him before he was executed?</text>
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		<line number="21">
			<speaker>MS MAGAWANA</speaker>
			<text>Yes, some of my other brothers went.  We could not afford to go.</text>
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		<line number="22">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Your request is that he should be exhumed and buried at home?  Do you have another request?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="23">
			<speaker>MS MAGAWANA</speaker>
			<text>If the Government could give us some form of compensation, because we lost a brother.</text>
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		<line number="24">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>You need compensation?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="25">
			<speaker>MS MAGAWANA</speaker>
			<text>Yes, whatever compensation they can give us.</text>
		</line>
		<line number="26">
			<speaker>ADV SANDI</speaker>
			<text>Is that all?</text>
		</line>
		<line number="27">
			<speaker>MS MAGAWANA</speaker>
			<text>Yes that is all Sir.</text>
		</line>
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